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I don't know why people are against this, it seems reasonable to me. If anyone goes beyond the intended usage (through themes or other modifications) then the d

I don't know why people are against this, it seems reasonable to me. If anyone goes beyond the intended usage (through themes or other modifications) then the developer shouldn't be resposible for supporting it

pizza234 5y ago
It's because the GNOME devs (which, I think, includes the GTK ones) have an extremely protective position towards "their" product, which clashes with the open source spirit. Theming ("branding", as they refer to) is, in a sense, just the core of their marketing campaign. This is not just ideology - they do try also in practical ways to prevent third party devs from customization. For a background of how horrible the people involved are, you can start from https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/gnome-et-al-rotting-in-threes https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/gnome-et-al-rotti.... Here's the antisocial answer of one of the GNOME devs: >> mccann replies: > I guess you have to decide if you are a GNOME app, an Ubuntu app, or an XFCE app unfortunately. I’m sorry that this is the case but it wasn’t GNOME’s fault that Ubuntu has started this fork. And I have no idea what XFCE is or does sorry.
- gammalost 5y ago
  But this isn't an instance of the GNOME or GTK devs complaining. It's an independent person making applications for the platform. If the GNOME devs are against people doing things with their code then it's a whole different issue to this one.
- lavabiopsy 5y ago
  I'm not sure why you're saying that's antisocial, it was completely true then and it's still somewhat true now. GNOME, Ubuntu and XFCE all have their own subtle differences, if you want to have a good experience for any one of them you'll have to target that specific desktop and test for it. Placing the blame for this solely on GNOME doesn't make any sense, when each of those groups all have their own product that they're trying to promote.

pizza234 5y ago

It's because the GNOME devs (which, I think, includes the GTK ones) have an extremely protective position towards "their" product, which clashes with the open source spirit. Theming ("branding", as they refer to) is, in a sense, just the core of their marketing campaign. This is not just ideology - they do try also in practical ways to prevent third party devs from customization. For a background of how horrible the people involved are, you can start from https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/gnome-et-al-rotting-in-threes https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/gnome-et-al-rotti.... Here's the antisocial answer of one of the GNOME devs: >> mccann replies: > I guess you have to decide if you are a GNOME app, an Ubuntu app, or an XFCE app unfortunately. I’m sorry that this is the case but it wasn’t GNOME’s fault that Ubuntu has started this fork. And I have no idea what XFCE is or does sorry.

gammalost 5y ago
But this isn't an instance of the GNOME or GTK devs complaining. It's an independent person making applications for the platform. If the GNOME devs are against people doing things with their code then it's a whole different issue to this one.
lavabiopsy 5y ago
I'm not sure why you're saying that's antisocial, it was completely true then and it's still somewhat true now. GNOME, Ubuntu and XFCE all have their own subtle differences, if you want to have a good experience for any one of them you'll have to target that specific desktop and test for it. Placing the blame for this solely on GNOME doesn't make any sense, when each of those groups all have their own product that they're trying to promote.