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I spent 2017-2019 posting/arguing with people on /r/korea almost every day, and I was really... inflammatory sometimes. Never got banned. As someone else points
by spats1990 5y ago
I spent 2017-2019 posting/arguing with people on /r/korea almost every day, and I was really... inflammatory sometimes. Never got banned. As someone else points out, you probably deserved at least a temp ban for the "moonies" thing. It's a bit different than your average political sneer word.
The shadowban sucks, though. Usually, the trick is to come back on a new account, and keep your head down for a while (and, if appropriate, try not to do the things you were banned for). That goes for all the subreddits I've been on. People will notice if you're a single-purpose commenter, back on a new account.
Also... (oh god, this is like smoking a cigarette after years off them)... it has always been so funny to me that this flag of "censorship" has suddenly been taken up by certain elements/people in the Korean political discourse, in light of the fact that there has never been a time when there was no censorship of Korean media. Lee Myung-bak? The removal of all those Daum comments? Every Korean administration has used the KCSC and attendant powers like a cudgel.
Your comments in that thread show either an unintentional or deliberate ignorance of the history of this stuff in the ROK.
"Free speech" type arguments currently being levelled at the Moon administration are a joke in the Korean political context. There is no free speech in the ROK and there never has been. Remember PGH's blacklists of artists etc for being pro-North? Remember that guy who had his house raided for using NK propaganda posters in memes? There has never been any free speech, freedom from censorship, etc, in the ROK. And most people there actually don't seem to mind. Or else they do mind, but it depends on who's in power. That's their business. They're the polity. But these claims of sudden "censorship" are lies by omission, because there is literally no time in the history of the ROK state at which the press has been anything like "free" in the western sense. It's all political ebb and flow.
Unless Moon Jae-in's critics would be willing to join me in calling for the KCSC to remove the internet blocks on North Korean content (or the ones on porn for that matter), any claims of censorship/free access to information/free speech will just look like political opportunism. It's "do as I say, not as I do" stuff. The election of every new president brings legal trials for the previous one, or at least for members of the previous president's administration. And so it goes...
- treme 5y agoso RSF/UNHRC/Le Monde all just being ignorant I take it? lol I have no interest in debating someone that thinks SK shouldn't be blocking NK contents, a sorry piece of dystopian communist-authoritarian country SK is still in war with? are you kidding me?
- spats1990 5y agoYou'll find that those types of foreign concerns about freedom of the press in Korea go back a really long way, and are not limited to the current administration. >I have no interest in debating someone that thinks SK shouldn't be blocking NK contents, a sorry piece of dystopian communist-authoritarian country SK is still in war with? Okay, so you do believe in censorship, correct? But only for your political opponents.
- treme 5y agoCensorship vs countries you are in war with is basic self-defense. I don't advocate censorship vs politics I disagree with. I have no idea how you came to that conclusion, given my entire post lol.
- spats1990 5y ago>Censorship vs countries you are in war with is basic self-defense. You think that people in Seoul, eating their 삼겹살, will look at some North Korean site and suddenly decide that what they really want is to go eat grass in the north during the next famine? As I'm sure you're aware, censorship of northern stuff in the ROK isn't just for NK ip addresses, it's for information in libraries. Where's the basic self-defence in denying historians access to primary sources? You do believe in censorship, just for ideas that you disagree with. edit: I recognise your username from the old days on /r/korea now actually... One of the mods on there must have finally had enough. You've been single-issue posting for like four years now, bro. Have a good one.
- treme 5y agoI believe in censorship when there is a war going on. Yes. Shocking, I know. You sound terribly naive about nature of PsyOPs NK runs in SK. They are smarter and more subtle than that. most recently: https://www.bbc.com/korean/news-58112280 https://www.bbc.com/korean/news-58112280 p.s) "So What you are saying is.." lol great tactic.