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That CF tool is voluntary, it does not run automatically. Also, I haven't seen many people argue that CSAM scanning shouldn't happen on online cloud services. O
by 0xy 5y ago
That CF tool is voluntary, it does not run automatically. Also, I haven't seen many people argue that CSAM scanning shouldn't happen on online cloud services. On local devices though? Massively over the red line.
- NoPicklez 5y agoYou really do have to wonder why Apple are doing it on-device rather than in the cloud. As I don't believe iCloud is encrypted data at rest either.
- istingray 5y agoYeah super bizarre. A few weeks in, has anyone seen a good take on it being local besides the "it's because ECEE is coming" fanfic? Like why not do this in the cloud. Leave my device out of it.
- NoPicklez 5y agoActually no sorry, upon checking iCloud data is E2E including both in transit and at rest. So it might be the only way in which Apple can do any scanning.
- 0xy 5y agoiCloud is not E2E, unless you consider "end-to-law-enforcement-to-end" E2E. [1] In fact, Apple were going to do this but caved under pressure from law enforcement. Imagine being an Apple engineer having joined a "privacy company" and then being forced to desecrate your users privacy in innumerable ways. [1] https://www.howtogeek.com/710509/apples-imessage-is-secure...-unless-you-have-icloud-enabled/ https://www.howtogeek.com/710509/apples-imessage-is-secure.....
- commoner 5y agoApple's help page does not say that iCloud is E2EE, with the exception of certain services listed under the "End-to-end encrypted data" section: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202303 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202303 The E2EE data includes Messages in iCloud (if iCloud Backup is disabled) and iCloud Keychain, but not Photos or iCloud Drive.