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This is a "First they came for socialists" argument, but applied at independent levels of tech stack. - VM hosting - DNS hosting - ISP Where do we draw the
by lostmsu 5y ago
This is a "First they came for socialists" argument, but applied at independent levels of tech stack.
- VM hosting
- DNS hosting
- ISP
Where do we draw the line? I'd rather none of the above to be able to refuse service based on thought policing.
- 8note 5y agoBanking? The Taliban should probably have access to both their websites and Afghanistan's wealth, regardless of whether their ideas are illegal in the states
- lostmsu 5y agoRemember, we are talking about thought crimes here, not terrorism.
- refenestrator 5y agoIt's worth emphasizing that this is already the 2nd escalation, too. People who didn't like twitter's policies were smugly told "go start your own twitter". So now we had these Parler guys on AWS, they actually did it, oops, turns out starting your own twitter is also not ok. I hate to defend Parler, but like you said, first they come for..
- chuckee 5y agoI would argue it's at least the 3rd - they've also been blacklisted by Visa: https://reclaimthenet.org/payment-processor-visa-deplatforms-free-speech-software-company-gab/ https://reclaimthenet.org/payment-processor-visa-deplatforms...
- rpmisms 5y agoOff topic, but is your username a reference to the overton window?
- refenestrator 5y agoNo, but it totally should be, I managed to defend both Parler and ISIS on this thread.
- rpmisms 5y agoTaking up the banner from the ACLU, who now suck.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago> People who didn't like twitter's policies were smugly told "go start your own twitter". I really don't see how there could have been any other response. Twitter is a private company holding private assets and letting people use them in exchange for showing those people ads. What kind of free society would tell them that they can't decide what kind of content people get to put on their stuff? Should I be allowed to write KKK speeches on my work computer? Unless we're going to declare social media a utility[0], what people are asking for is basically to have the government tell you what to put on your website. [0] Which I personally think is ridiculous and entitled, but I'm open to the argument.
- refenestrator 5y agoTo the extent that our media and politicians live on Twitter, its become the public square and their policies are de facto policies for American public discourse. I personally would prefer that they didn't all live on Twitter, but they do and so here we are.
- godmode2019 5y agoMy domain was ceased for operating a fast growing covid/ flu tracking web app early in the pandemic. The powers used to cease it was emergency powers granted two years earlier to stop terrorist content from circulation online. The domain was released eventually but the damage had already been done.
- kragen 5y agoIn what country?
- godmode2019 5y agoNew Zealand
- kragen 5y agoShit!
- godmode2019 5y agoWebsites crash all the time, but a domains being ceased is another level you don't have access to your email or any accounts with that email, and all customer support is gone. 4k plus new users a day loose access their health information. Before this I always assumed the DNS layer was untouchable considering many deplorable websites still have a domain. But this protection only applies to certain top level domains. .org for example
- scohesc 5y agoFunny how the power to stop terrorist content is being used to prevent the free flow of information.