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i don't discuss the number of hospitalizations or deaths - that is currently established fact that the current vaccines decrease that (at least as the 1st order
by trhway 5y ago
i don't discuss the number of hospitalizations or deaths - that is currently established fact that the current vaccines decrease that (at least as the 1st order effect and leaving aside the possible 2nd order that infected vaccinated being undercounted and asymptomatic with higher chances may be walking around spreading) and there is not much point to discuss there. I discuss infection spread at which those vaccines fail, and thus various vaccine mandates policies and societal push for it are completely unfounded and based in hysteria and ideology.
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- Retric 5y agoOk, that’s a different issue. We have crossed the threshold where most people are getting sick or vaccinated, with many getting both. People can test positive for infection without being particularly infectious. Just as the vaccinated are less likely to be hospitalized they are also vastly less contagious on average after infection. That’s from two different effects the vaccinated and prior infected are both less sick and sick for a shorter periods. Which is why people talk about herd immunity. Of course the longer people go unvaccinated the more evolution is pushing COVID to become ever more infectious aka Delta as part of a long line of slightly worse variants. But, again eventually almost everyone gets it or the vaccine so there is major pressure to get people vaccinated or just open up so the unvaccinated get sick.