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Hosting the websites of terrorist groups is something few people would advocate, but the misinformation thing is beginning to really ride the line. Am I going t
by Causality1 5y ago
Hosting the websites of terrorist groups is something few people would advocate, but the misinformation thing is beginning to really ride the line. Am I going to have to start worrying about whether my online backups have pirated music? If I see a piece of CSAM on Facebook and report it, should I worry about the copy of it in my browser cache being uploaded into my system backup?
- Spooky23 5y agoYes. It’s the digital equivalent of having cocaine stuffed in your cars’ back seat. Doesn’t matter how it got there.
- FpUser 5y agoActually it does. If you did not put it there but were instead set up good lawyer might be able to get you off the hook assuming you can afford good lawyer. The so called "equal" justice truly sucks. I once saw government trying to deny legal aid to person X on a basis that the offence is minor and the risk to be imprisoned is low, never mind the fact that having criminal record can completely screw person's life later on.
- Spooky23 5y agoIt all depends on the prosecutor. I served on a jury where a driver was being prosecuted for possession with intent to distribute for reasons nobody understood. The passenger, who wasn’t known to the driver, in the back seat confessed at the scene and plead guilty months earlier. It was obvious that something hinky was up. In this case, the jurors were all disgusted and found the guy not guilty. One of the jurors was a retired US Attorney who was upset enough that he submitted a complaint to the bar association. Justice was served, but going through a trial is a life altering experience.
- FpUser 5y agoI wish the prosecutor was criminally charged with malicious prosecution and big compensation awarded to the driver so that the next time some scumbag trying to use justice system like this will think twice.
- gjsman-1000 5y agoYour system backup is not scanned by Apple - only iCloud Photos. For now.
- kevingadd 5y agoSome cloud services already detect and delete pirate content since they do deduplication/hashing, i.e. https://www.wired.co.uk/article/dropbox-dmca-position https://www.wired.co.uk/article/dropbox-dmca-position
- akimball 5y agoHow do they avoid liability for erasing my only copy of something I licensed?
- Causality1 5y agoToS. They can do whatever they want.
- lwf 5y agoThe article you linked describes preventing the creation of a shared link, not actually deleting content from people's Dropbox accounts. (previously worked there, not speaking on their behalf or from private knowledge)
- adolph 5y ago> Hosting the websites of ___________ is something few people would advocate . . . Tricky part is everyone fills in the blank differently.
- Animats 5y agoWill AWS terminate your account for competing with Amazon in some other area?
- elforce002 5y agoHi Slippery. Meet Slope.
- geoduck14 5y agoI guess Walmart will need to find a new cloud host!
- genewitch 5y agoWalmart has huge datacenters themselves. Whether or not they could or will compete is anyone's guess.
- wincy 5y agoAs someone who was a major vendor for Walmart, they are vehemently opposed to doing any business using AWS. They believe that AWS would gladly steal their company secrets regarding logistics and use it to gain any advantage they could possibly glean from those secrets. The logistics company I worked for also disallowed the engineering department to use AWS and settled on Azure cloud after examining that and Google’s offering instead.
- geoduck14 5y ago>As someone who was a major vendor for Walmart, they are vehemently opposed to doing any business using AWS. You are absolutely right. My comment was ment as a joke. Also, I worked as a vendor for Walmart, too. They made it clear they didn't do business with vendors who were on AWS... so we "became multi cloud", but the stuff we hosted for them was TOTALLY on AWS.
- Baeocystin 5y ago~Four years ago I had an issue with Google Drive deleting things that was solved with zipping with a password. Both the plain files and zipped without password files were removed within a day or so of uploading. This is stuff like FLAC files, PhoenixMiner, and some movies I'd Handbraked from rips. Importantly, none of this was shared- it was all for my own personal use. I've since adopted the thought pattern that everything that is uploaded to a cloud is going to be inspected by people who do not have my best interests in mind, and to encrypt accordingly.
- NullPrefix 5y agoAny chance the zip password was bruteforced?
- josefx 5y agoGiven that only the password less zip files were removed that probably wasn't the case.
- NullPrefix 5y agoMy bad, I read the OPs statement wrong.
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- heavyset_go 5y agoTo answer your last question, yes, you should worry about that.
- noncoml 5y ago> Hosting the websites of terrorist groups is something few people would advocate The laws that are passed today to “protect your from terrorists” will help the government, tomorrow, to control you, and the corporations, the day after, to extract more money from you. So please be careful what laws you advocate for.
- hughrr 5y agoI’ve stopped using cloud storage and backup now. The convenience is no longer worth the privacy and data loss risk. I’m not sure it even improved my life at the end of the day. Back to multiple offline hard disks stored in different locations.
- imhoguy 5y agoI think usually ends up with convenience of the backup process. Keeping offline disk backup in sync is inconvenient, neither is more durable or secure than cloud (assuming encryption and distant off-site copies). If Tahoe-LAFS or SiaCoin was much easier to use, e.g. with phone backup setup in a few clicks, then simple family/community distributed "clouds" would be no-brainer.
- kragen 5y agoAmazon hosts websites for the US government, which no doubt the Iranian government considers a terrorist group. Probably a lot of people in Yemen and Afghanistan whose family members have been killed by drone strikes would agree. You may be too young to remember when the CIA illegally funded terrorist death squads in Nicaragua by selling arms to Iran and crack to the US, but a lot of Nicaraguans would agree, too. Maybe we should stop trying to silence people we disagree with.
- kodah 5y agoThis is the wrong take I think, because you're trying to paint the Taliban in a positive light -- as if they're freedom fighters to disagree with. In reality, the Talibans main export is heroine, and they get that heroine by enslaving local populaces in rural southern Afghanistan where it can grow easily and the people are defenseless economically much less educationally or physically. They do so to attain power and spread their influence to one day establish a wider Sharia based Islamic State.
- kragen 5y agoI am definitely not trying to paint the Taliban in a positive light, and I don't have any idea what it is about my comment that could possibly have led you to believe that. If they were freedom fighters, I wouldn't disagree with them nearly so strongly.
- kodah 5y agoYou're juxtaposing legitimate beef with US policy and intervention which carries some level of nuance with the Taliban. To me, that's trying to give them some credence where they clearly have none.
- gameswithgo 5y agoBecause you used the often repeated refrain of “disagreement” as if people were turning to censorship over arguments about how high taxes should be, when usually it is more about groups plotting to exterminate an ethnic group or people plotting to overturn an election violently. Calling this “just disagreement” makes many feel you are either being disingenuous or are completely oblivious.
- BiteCode_dev 5y ago> Hosting the websites of terrorist groups is something few people would advocate The problem is not to remove those, the problem is to do that outside of a proper legal process. Because it's easy to say "yeah, ISIS are terrorists, remove their forum", but the word "terrorist" has been abused to much you pretty much guaranteed it's going to be the justification to remove "content we don't like".