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Not ARM.

by megous 5y ago

Not ARM.

user-the-name 5y ago
Also not small.
- peterburkimsher 5y ago
  The EspUSB is small! It fits inside a USB port and can act as a USB keyboard & mouse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPBzOaLbWhM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPBzOaLbWhM There's an even smaller design on the github that I had custom-manufactured at PCBWay before. Please email espusb@gmail if you want to know more. https://github.com/cnlohr/espusb/tree/master/hardware/usb_8285_tiny https://github.com/cnlohr/espusb/tree/master/hardware/usb_82... Charles Lohr made the amazing design. I built a little on top, and made a slight modification to the firmware to allow text entry in all languages by sending Unicode codepoints. So now I can type Chinese (or Japanese, Korean, Russian, Arabic, Thai...) on my phone's keyboard, and have the EspUSB type it into my laptop. Very convenient when the characters aren't printed on the keys. Pity I never figured out how to do the regulatory compliance for the EspUSB, so couldn't follow through on actually getting it onto a web store (e.g. Tindie, AliExpress, eBay, TradeMe). I looked into it, but the lack of EM shielding is quite difficult to justify, and adding such shielding would make it too big.
ncmncm 5y ago
I was shocked when I found out ESP wasn't ARM. It's a weird arch you never heard of. They distribute an ancient Gcc in their SDK, and at least Debian only packages an ancient Gcc for it. Don't know if anybody packages a current-ish compiler. Don't know how big a hassle it is to build one.
- wavesquid 5y ago
  They're almost up to date with LLVM: https://github.com/espressif/llvm-project/ https://github.com/espressif/llvm-project/
- throwaway81523 5y ago
  There is reasonable GCC support for the ESP Vertex arch, and they seem to be migrating toward RISC-V, so the current ESP32-C3 uses RISC-V arch. But they still have another Vertex part in the works.
fxtentacle 5y ago
Wow, TIL. We switched from Arduino (which is ARM) to ESP32 and all dependencies compiled and just worked, so I wrongly assumed that it'd be ARM, too. But apparently, their tooling is just really good.
- floxy 5y ago
  Arduino is Atmel AVR, not Arm. https://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/DeviceDoc/Atmel-7766-8-bit-AVR-ATmega16U4-32U4_Datasheet.pdf https://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/DeviceDoc/Atmel-7766-...
  - photojosh 5y ago
    The original Arduinos were AVR, but many of the modern ones and clones are indeed ARM, it's just well hidden via the IDE.
    - floxy 5y ago
      Good to know. Thanks for the correction.

Not ARM.

by megous 5y ago

Not ARM.

user-the-name 5y ago

Also not small.

peterburkimsher 5y ago
The EspUSB is small! It fits inside a USB port and can act as a USB keyboard & mouse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPBzOaLbWhM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPBzOaLbWhM There's an even smaller design on the github that I had custom-manufactured at PCBWay before. Please email espusb@gmail if you want to know more. https://github.com/cnlohr/espusb/tree/master/hardware/usb_8285_tiny https://github.com/cnlohr/espusb/tree/master/hardware/usb_82... Charles Lohr made the amazing design. I built a little on top, and made a slight modification to the firmware to allow text entry in all languages by sending Unicode codepoints. So now I can type Chinese (or Japanese, Korean, Russian, Arabic, Thai...) on my phone's keyboard, and have the EspUSB type it into my laptop. Very convenient when the characters aren't printed on the keys. Pity I never figured out how to do the regulatory compliance for the EspUSB, so couldn't follow through on actually getting it onto a web store (e.g. Tindie, AliExpress, eBay, TradeMe). I looked into it, but the lack of EM shielding is quite difficult to justify, and adding such shielding would make it too big.

ncmncm 5y ago

I was shocked when I found out ESP wasn't ARM. It's a weird arch you never heard of. They distribute an ancient Gcc in their SDK, and at least Debian only packages an ancient Gcc for it. Don't know if anybody packages a current-ish compiler. Don't know how big a hassle it is to build one.

wavesquid 5y ago
They're almost up to date with LLVM: https://github.com/espressif/llvm-project/ https://github.com/espressif/llvm-project/
throwaway81523 5y ago
There is reasonable GCC support for the ESP Vertex arch, and they seem to be migrating toward RISC-V, so the current ESP32-C3 uses RISC-V arch. But they still have another Vertex part in the works.

fxtentacle 5y ago

Wow, TIL. We switched from Arduino (which is ARM) to ESP32 and all dependencies compiled and just worked, so I wrongly assumed that it'd be ARM, too. But apparently, their tooling is just really good.

floxy 5y ago
Arduino is Atmel AVR, not Arm. https://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/DeviceDoc/Atmel-7766-8-bit-AVR-ATmega16U4-32U4_Datasheet.pdf https://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/DeviceDoc/Atmel-7766-...
- photojosh 5y ago
  The original Arduinos were AVR, but many of the modern ones and clones are indeed ARM, it's just well hidden via the IDE.
  - floxy 5y ago
    Good to know. Thanks for the correction.