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Americans have a weird relationship with breasts. Also issues that only affect women (mostly, I know men can get it in rare cases?)

ars 5y ago
Breast cancer is the cancer that raises the most money (that pink ribbon you see everywhere). That money goes somewhere..... This is not a "weird relationship" thing, rather women got organized and: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breast_cancer_awareness https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breast_cancer_awareness
- ben_w 5y ago
  While all that is true, America absolutely has a weird relationship with breasts.
  - lostlogin 5y ago
    > While all that is true, America absolutely has a weird relationship with breasts. It’s more broad than that, it’s the relationship with women’s health as a whole.
  - gweinberg 5y ago
    That depends on what you think a normal relationship with breasts would look like, I suppose.
    - ben_w 5y ago
      In particular, the pearl-clutching gender-specific moralising: it is absurd that an organ whose specific purpose is to feed infants by being inserted into their faces is censored specially from minors, whereas the non-functional copy of the organ in men which can’t even do that is apparently acceptable (modulo dress code, weather, etc, but you can walk around or swim or sunbathe topples as man, not as a woman).
  - darkhorse13 5y ago
    What is exactly a "normal" relationship with breasts for a country to have?
    - teekert 5y ago
      Things like: It's normal to breast feed in public. Or the nation does not go bananas when a nipple is exposed on TV. Or how normal it is to sunbathe topless. Arguably this also relates to how normal it is for kids to walk around naked and families to be naked around each other. If you're really interested, watch some older Dutch movies to see the normalness of naked, like Turkish Delight [0]. Or even have a closer look at the relation between the Professor and Raquel in the recent Casa the Papel. It's different from US series. More respectful, mature wrt women if you ask me. More emphasis on intelligence. Or on a beautiful woman in her 40s with normal wrinkles. The US, like on many other topics, seems to be polarized, caught between the hyper sexuality of Cardi B and the prude nature of American culture in general. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Delight_(1973_film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Delight_(1973_film)
  - teekert 5y ago
    I'd say it's only the nipple. The contrast in response to side boob and nipple seems to be off the chart in the US.
  - yholio 5y ago
    > While all that is true, THE WORLD absolutely has a weird relationship with FEMALE BODIES. Fixed that for you.
- thomasjudge 5y ago
  Also the largest and best known breast cancer fundraising organization, Susan G Komen, has, in the words of wikipedia, "been mired by controversy over pinkwashing, allocation of research funding, and CEO pay." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_G._Komen_for_the_Cure https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_G._Komen_for_the_Cure

ars 5y ago

Breast cancer is the cancer that raises the most money (that pink ribbon you see everywhere). That money goes somewhere..... This is not a "weird relationship" thing, rather women got organized and: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breast_cancer_awareness https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breast_cancer_awareness

ben_w 5y ago
While all that is true, America absolutely has a weird relationship with breasts.
- lostlogin 5y ago
  > While all that is true, America absolutely has a weird relationship with breasts. It’s more broad than that, it’s the relationship with women’s health as a whole.
- gweinberg 5y ago
  That depends on what you think a normal relationship with breasts would look like, I suppose.
  - ben_w 5y ago
    In particular, the pearl-clutching gender-specific moralising: it is absurd that an organ whose specific purpose is to feed infants by being inserted into their faces is censored specially from minors, whereas the non-functional copy of the organ in men which can’t even do that is apparently acceptable (modulo dress code, weather, etc, but you can walk around or swim or sunbathe topples as man, not as a woman).
- darkhorse13 5y ago
  What is exactly a "normal" relationship with breasts for a country to have?
  - teekert 5y ago
    Things like: It's normal to breast feed in public. Or the nation does not go bananas when a nipple is exposed on TV. Or how normal it is to sunbathe topless. Arguably this also relates to how normal it is for kids to walk around naked and families to be naked around each other. If you're really interested, watch some older Dutch movies to see the normalness of naked, like Turkish Delight [0]. Or even have a closer look at the relation between the Professor and Raquel in the recent Casa the Papel. It's different from US series. More respectful, mature wrt women if you ask me. More emphasis on intelligence. Or on a beautiful woman in her 40s with normal wrinkles. The US, like on many other topics, seems to be polarized, caught between the hyper sexuality of Cardi B and the prude nature of American culture in general. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Delight_(1973_film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Delight_(1973_film)
- teekert 5y ago
  I'd say it's only the nipple. The contrast in response to side boob and nipple seems to be off the chart in the US.
- yholio 5y ago
  > While all that is true, THE WORLD absolutely has a weird relationship with FEMALE BODIES. Fixed that for you.
thomasjudge 5y ago
Also the largest and best known breast cancer fundraising organization, Susan G Komen, has, in the words of wikipedia, "been mired by controversy over pinkwashing, allocation of research funding, and CEO pay." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_G._Komen_for_the_Cure https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_G._Komen_for_the_Cure