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I didn't know the goal of life was to live the longest, even if in prison. You might want to invest in cryogenic sleep.

grecy 5y ago
A big goal of my life is to be alive, not dead. There are 45,000 people in Australia who are alive right now who would not be if Australia had the same death rate as the USA. So they're doing pretty well.
- serf 5y ago
  >There are 45,000 people in Australia who are alive right now who would not be if Australia had the same death rate as the USA. So they're doing pretty well. the idea that the difference in death rate is due to some intrinsic policy or mandated behavior rather than something more simple like population density/metropolis commonality/average temperature/humidity, etc seems like a pretty big leap -- and that seems to be your point , no? is there already some big comprehensive list of social policies that provably worked to reduce death rate during the covid-19 pandemic across the board with environmental factors normalized out? I thought we were still in the middle of this experiment, but i'd love to see some data if it exists.
  - Andaith 5y ago
    Yes. Things like closing borders and instituting quarantine for returning travelers, using high testing numbers, contact tracing, and short lockdowns, to ensure covid-zero. Also, Australia is ridiculously dense. Most of our pop is in capital cities. it's big and empty.
NamTaf 5y ago
Comparing the condition of Aussies in lockdown to being in prison is disingenuous and unhelpful to the debate. For example, my partner goes for a daily walk along the foreshore of the beach. On the weekend she'll go for a bush hike. This is all within the strict Sydney lockdown laws because she's staying within a 5km radius of her home. Moreover, their lockdown means that I can go about my life more or less uninterrupted, because their outbreak is limited from reaching me.

A big goal of my life is to be alive, not dead. There are 45,000 people in Australia who are alive right now who would not be if Australia had the same death rate as the USA. So they're doing pretty well.

serf 5y ago
>There are 45,000 people in Australia who are alive right now who would not be if Australia had the same death rate as the USA. So they're doing pretty well. the idea that the difference in death rate is due to some intrinsic policy or mandated behavior rather than something more simple like population density/metropolis commonality/average temperature/humidity, etc seems like a pretty big leap -- and that seems to be your point , no? is there already some big comprehensive list of social policies that provably worked to reduce death rate during the covid-19 pandemic across the board with environmental factors normalized out? I thought we were still in the middle of this experiment, but i'd love to see some data if it exists.
- Andaith 5y ago
  Yes. Things like closing borders and instituting quarantine for returning travelers, using high testing numbers, contact tracing, and short lockdowns, to ensure covid-zero. Also, Australia is ridiculously dense. Most of our pop is in capital cities. it's big and empty.

NamTaf 5y ago

Comparing the condition of Aussies in lockdown to being in prison is disingenuous and unhelpful to the debate. For example, my partner goes for a daily walk along the foreshore of the beach. On the weekend she'll go for a bush hike. This is all within the strict Sydney lockdown laws because she's staying within a 5km radius of her home. Moreover, their lockdown means that I can go about my life more or less uninterrupted, because their outbreak is limited from reaching me.