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At risk of sounding corny, could the sole contrubution of Murchochs dynasty be cited accurately as a cause?

by bloqs 5y ago

revscat 5y ago
This seeks accurate. The rise of totalitarianism and fascism worldwide seems to largely be the responsibility of Murdoch, Putin, and some American billionaires (among others, I’m sure). For Australia, though, it seems that Murdoch’s fascist influence outweighs all others.
roflc0ptic 5y ago
I mean, it's definitely not reasonable to say that Fox etc are solely responsible, but I do think Fox has an under-investigated causal role in national/global politics. I also really like Matt Taibbi's "Hate Inc" hypothesis, which is basically that consensual reality is no longer the business model employed by news organizations to get viewers, its more like contempt and fear of the other. It does strike me that Fox pioneered that, although it seems like the rest of the media apparatus has hopped on board.
namelessoracle 5y ago
No, I think it's deeper than that. Structures like churches and local communities have crumbled away, and parents and family have to work so much that the state via schools do a lot of child raising these days. (there are tons of kids who are with the state from 9am to 5 to 6pm, however late after school will take them), then there parent has to give them to grandma or babysitter on the weekend to work some more. People's guiding authority in their life has become the state.
Mountain_Skies 5y ago
Very interesting to contrast which political parties in the west are pushing for these things against where fingers are being pointed in much of this thread.
stephen_g 5y ago
It’s a big part of the way information is “managed”. Former Prime Minister Kevin Rudd (who was on the receiving end of character assassination campaigns for years from them) talks very well on this nowadays, describing it as a “protection racket for the LNP”. But it’s not just News Ltd anymore. Fairfax has devolved since Nine bought them out, and the ABC is a shell of what it once was. Just look at what happened to Nick Ross for reporting the truth about the NBN, or Emma Albericie for reporting on tax cuts in a way the Government didn’t like. They were basically forced out. Then all the budget cuts leading to redundancies of many of the good voices. There are still a few gems, but the ABC is mostly in a “report in a way we like or it’s more budget cuts” position and are mostly toeing the line.

At risk of sounding corny, could the sole contrubution of Murchochs dynasty be cited accurately as a cause?

by bloqs 5y ago

At risk of sounding corny, could the sole contrubution of Murchochs dynasty be cited accurately as a cause?

This seeks accurate. The rise of totalitarianism and fascism worldwide seems to largely be the responsibility of Murdoch, Putin, and some American billionaires (among others, I’m sure). For Australia, though, it seems that Murdoch’s fascist influence outweighs all others.

roflc0ptic 5y ago

I mean, it's definitely not reasonable to say that Fox etc are solely responsible, but I do think Fox has an under-investigated causal role in national/global politics. I also really like Matt Taibbi's "Hate Inc" hypothesis, which is basically that consensual reality is no longer the business model employed by news organizations to get viewers, its more like contempt and fear of the other. It does strike me that Fox pioneered that, although it seems like the rest of the media apparatus has hopped on board.

namelessoracle 5y ago

No, I think it's deeper than that. Structures like churches and local communities have crumbled away, and parents and family have to work so much that the state via schools do a lot of child raising these days. (there are tons of kids who are with the state from 9am to 5 to 6pm, however late after school will take them), then there parent has to give them to grandma or babysitter on the weekend to work some more. People's guiding authority in their life has become the state.

Mountain_Skies 5y ago

Very interesting to contrast which political parties in the west are pushing for these things against where fingers are being pointed in much of this thread.

stephen_g 5y ago

It’s a big part of the way information is “managed”. Former Prime Minister Kevin Rudd (who was on the receiving end of character assassination campaigns for years from them) talks very well on this nowadays, describing it as a “protection racket for the LNP”. But it’s not just News Ltd anymore. Fairfax has devolved since Nine bought them out, and the ABC is a shell of what it once was. Just look at what happened to Nick Ross for reporting the truth about the NBN, or Emma Albericie for reporting on tax cuts in a way the Government didn’t like. They were basically forced out. Then all the budget cuts leading to redundancies of many of the good voices. There are still a few gems, but the ABC is mostly in a “report in a way we like or it’s more budget cuts” position and are mostly toeing the line.