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"Poorest of the Nordic countries" is a bit misleading, as the other Nordic countries set the bar very high. Standard of living in Finland is higher than in the

"Poorest of the Nordic countries" is a bit misleading, as the other Nordic countries set the bar very high. Standard of living in Finland is higher than in the UK, which didn't have any trouble attracting skilled immigrants before Brexit. From what I have heard, the usual complaints are about immigration bureaucracy, language, difficulty of making friends, climate, and darkness. The real challenge in retaining immigrants comes in the first year without a proper winter, when you have to face six months of November.

OJFord 5y ago
But the rest of that sentence was: > with the lowest salaries comparatively—and yet similarly high cost of living and extremely high taxes. i.e. why would you pick it over the others, you don't make your choice of economic migration to be fairest to the potential destinations, 'the other Nordic countries set the bar very high' just means 'the other Nordic countries are better choices'.
- jltsiren 5y ago
  Immigrants usually move for specific reasons. The choice is more often between moving to Finland and not moving to Finland than between moving to Finland and moving to Sweden.
  - OJFord 5y ago
    I specifically said economic migration, which is by definition about improving standard of living rather than having a particular draw to a specific country. Of course other factors may narrow it down - 'I like Nordic countries', or particularly 'somewhere in the EU', but not typically 'Finland or bust'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_migration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_migration
    - jltsiren 5y ago
      People usually mean low-skilled immigrants when they talk about economic migration. High-skilled immigrants are more likely to choose a particular company or even a specific job opportunity than a specific country. They don't move to a country because they want to live there but because many of the best opportunities for a person with their particular skills and networks happen to be there. They don't choose between country A and country B when they don't have any particular reason to move, but between taking a specific opportunity in country A and not taking the opportunity.
      - int_19h 5y ago
        It really depends on where the immigrant in question is coming from. I definitely shopped for countries back in the day.

OJFord 5y ago

But the rest of that sentence was: > with the lowest salaries comparatively—and yet similarly high cost of living and extremely high taxes. i.e. why would you pick it over the others, you don't make your choice of economic migration to be fairest to the potential destinations, 'the other Nordic countries set the bar very high' just means 'the other Nordic countries are better choices'.

jltsiren 5y ago
Immigrants usually move for specific reasons. The choice is more often between moving to Finland and not moving to Finland than between moving to Finland and moving to Sweden.
- OJFord 5y ago
  I specifically said economic migration, which is by definition about improving standard of living rather than having a particular draw to a specific country. Of course other factors may narrow it down - 'I like Nordic countries', or particularly 'somewhere in the EU', but not typically 'Finland or bust'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_migration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_migration
  - jltsiren 5y ago
    People usually mean low-skilled immigrants when they talk about economic migration. High-skilled immigrants are more likely to choose a particular company or even a specific job opportunity than a specific country. They don't move to a country because they want to live there but because many of the best opportunities for a person with their particular skills and networks happen to be there. They don't choose between country A and country B when they don't have any particular reason to move, but between taking a specific opportunity in country A and not taking the opportunity.
    - int_19h 5y ago
      It really depends on where the immigrant in question is coming from. I definitely shopped for countries back in the day.