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Just for reference, gitter.im did just that a while back. It's really nice to be able to join a gitter channel using a client of my choice and not a crappy web

Just for reference, gitter.im did just that a while back. It's really nice to be able to join a gitter channel using a client of my choice and not a crappy web interface.

detaro 5y ago
(Although gitter.im isn't really a "third-party" adopting it, given they were aquired by Matrix developers: https://blog.gitter.im/2020/09/30/gitter-element-acquisition/ https://blog.gitter.im/2020/09/30/gitter-element-acquisition...)
- southerntofu 5y ago
  Oh, that's interesting. I did not see any amount of money in those blogposts, do you have an idea how much it cost? Also it appears Gitter is actually not operating a matrix server, but is instead bridged with https://www.matrix.org/docs/projects/bridge/native-gitter-bridge https://www.matrix.org/docs/projects/bridge/native-gitter-br... ? Does that mean gitter.im is only reachable from matrix.org? Personally when i had to join a gitter room, i would join from my XMPP account using the @matrix.org gateway (which despite being unreliable is very nice) so i have no clue.
  - detaro 5y ago
    Some of the Matrix folks are active on HN, maybe they mentioned something in the discussions back then? But I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't much if anything - my impression was that Gitlab didn't really know what to do with gitter, so giving it to messaging-focused project would make some sense. No, bridged rooms generally are reachable from any instance. It's just that the bridge talks to matrix.org and matrix.org "hosts" (that's not 100% accurate afaik to how Matrix works, but close enough for this) the room just like any other matrix.org room, that is also reachable from other instances.
  - Tmpod 5y ago
    From what I know, they are still bridging, but in the long run (I assume they are somewhat waiting for stable Dendrite, since Synapse is shit for massive deployments) I believe they want to run an actual homeserver in gitter.im and have a sort of Gitter themed/branded Element client for it.
    - escalt 5y ago
      This is already the case. There is an actual matrix server reachable @gitter.im and you can join gitter rooms through it
      - southerntofu 5y ago
        ah thanks for that information! it was not apparent from the blogpost/docs about it on matrix side

Just for reference, gitter.im did just that a while back. It's really nice to be able to join a gitter channel using a client of my choice and not a crappy web interface.

detaro 5y ago

(Although gitter.im isn't really a "third-party" adopting it, given they were aquired by Matrix developers: https://blog.gitter.im/2020/09/30/gitter-element-acquisition/ https://blog.gitter.im/2020/09/30/gitter-element-acquisition...)

southerntofu 5y ago
Oh, that's interesting. I did not see any amount of money in those blogposts, do you have an idea how much it cost? Also it appears Gitter is actually not operating a matrix server, but is instead bridged with https://www.matrix.org/docs/projects/bridge/native-gitter-bridge https://www.matrix.org/docs/projects/bridge/native-gitter-br... ? Does that mean gitter.im is only reachable from matrix.org? Personally when i had to join a gitter room, i would join from my XMPP account using the @matrix.org gateway (which despite being unreliable is very nice) so i have no clue.
- detaro 5y ago
  Some of the Matrix folks are active on HN, maybe they mentioned something in the discussions back then? But I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't much if anything - my impression was that Gitlab didn't really know what to do with gitter, so giving it to messaging-focused project would make some sense. No, bridged rooms generally are reachable from any instance. It's just that the bridge talks to matrix.org and matrix.org "hosts" (that's not 100% accurate afaik to how Matrix works, but close enough for this) the room just like any other matrix.org room, that is also reachable from other instances.
- Tmpod 5y ago
  From what I know, they are still bridging, but in the long run (I assume they are somewhat waiting for stable Dendrite, since Synapse is shit for massive deployments) I believe they want to run an actual homeserver in gitter.im and have a sort of Gitter themed/branded Element client for it.
  - escalt 5y ago
    This is already the case. There is an actual matrix server reachable @gitter.im and you can join gitter rooms through it
    - southerntofu 5y ago
      ah thanks for that information! it was not apparent from the blogpost/docs about it on matrix side