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Isn’t the main pain point with mailing lists clean IP address management/not being labeled as SPAM by the big 3 (Google/MS/Yahoo). And isn’t like 90% of that ju

by vxNsr 5y ago

Isn’t the main pain point with mailing lists clean IP address management/not being labeled as SPAM by the big 3 (Google/MS/Yahoo). And isn’t like 90% of that just being big enough that you have to be taken seriously? I know there are a fair number of people on hn who run their own mail servers but I feel like their biggest complaint is being taken seriously by GMY…

xrisk 5y ago
Some of us run mailing lists on internal networks :)
cloudking 5y ago
Assuming you can connect this system to external servers for sending email, you could use something like ListMonk + Amazon SES to get a much cheaper solution than MailChimp etc. That would solve the spam problem.
buro9 5y ago
Let's say that you have a very large marketing list with 200k people, but you only email once per month. MailChimp = $1,190 per month if sent as marketing email priced on number of contacts, $200 per month if sent as transactional email priced as number of emails SendGrid = $90 per month priced as number of emails Just using ListMonk with SendGrid if you have a large number of subscribers would be worth it. ListMonk represents the solution to mailing list management, IP reputation is a separate problem. For things like charities that have tight budgets and potentially huge contact lists, ListMonk would really help them embrace email more because the pricing wouldn't put them off.
- knadh 5y ago
  This is correct. Our listmonk instance has ~7mn subscribers to whom we've to send updates (sometimes mandatory regulatory ones within stipulated periods) every month. The cost of hosting listmonk and Postal SMTP servers (that we scale up momentarily when sending a campaign) on EC2 is peanuts. With proper SPF + DKIM + not sending spam, we haven't had any IP reputation issues.
  - buro9 5y ago
    While you are here... AGPL choice is excellent. It's a really nice looking piece of software so I hope to use it the next time I find myself reaching for Mailchimp, and I like that if other companies are using it too that all of the changes will be public and have the potential to enhance the software.

by vxNsr 5y ago

xrisk 5y ago

Some of us run mailing lists on internal networks :)

cloudking 5y ago

Assuming you can connect this system to external servers for sending email, you could use something like ListMonk + Amazon SES to get a much cheaper solution than MailChimp etc. That would solve the spam problem.

buro9 5y ago

Let's say that you have a very large marketing list with 200k people, but you only email once per month. MailChimp = $1,190 per month if sent as marketing email priced on number of contacts, $200 per month if sent as transactional email priced as number of emails SendGrid = $90 per month priced as number of emails Just using ListMonk with SendGrid if you have a large number of subscribers would be worth it. ListMonk represents the solution to mailing list management, IP reputation is a separate problem. For things like charities that have tight budgets and potentially huge contact lists, ListMonk would really help them embrace email more because the pricing wouldn't put them off.

knadh 5y ago
This is correct. Our listmonk instance has ~7mn subscribers to whom we've to send updates (sometimes mandatory regulatory ones within stipulated periods) every month. The cost of hosting listmonk and Postal SMTP servers (that we scale up momentarily when sending a campaign) on EC2 is peanuts. With proper SPF + DKIM + not sending spam, we haven't had any IP reputation issues.
- buro9 5y ago
  While you are here... AGPL choice is excellent. It's a really nice looking piece of software so I hope to use it the next time I find myself reaching for Mailchimp, and I like that if other companies are using it too that all of the changes will be public and have the potential to enhance the software.