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The problem is absolutely the ads. I subscribe to people on Twitch. Twitch is getting money from me. I'm also a Twitch Prime member and Amazon makes a lot of mo

The problem is absolutely the ads. I subscribe to people on Twitch. Twitch is getting money from me. I'm also a Twitch Prime member and Amazon makes a lot of money off of me generally. They can do without sticking ads in my face. I'll put up with ads when I'm not paying for things (and Twitch takes a very large cut!). If I am, get out. This is why I pay for YouTube Premium, because then I don't get ads.

loceng 5y ago
And ads are literary paid by "you" (or investors hoping to eventually create a growing positive feedback loop) to to manipulate you and everyone else with cheap-shallow attempt to get you to buy a product or service and use up two of your most valuable assets - your time and your attention; you/society currently have the accepted culture to fund to using up your time and being manipulated and without accounting for the externalized cost and harm of such. Until society is educated on this harm and elects politicians who will create policy for healthy/healthier system then we'll be stuck in this state - and of course ads work, create profits, and industries with most profits have more profits to spend on advertising and on lobbying politicians of their choice to help bolster them into elected positions or to attempt to defame or suppress them directly or indirectly via funding their opposition who may engage in public or private/incognito smear campaigns - the subtly violent method compared to the method cartels use of assassinating any new political campaigners who don't fall in line with what they want. Good luck with the "no ads" effort to all though as you have the whole advertising industrial complex now disliking you or worse, you're now up against all their employees, owners, and investors of whatever part of the ecosystem they're part of - including the companies who depend on using ads for and to maintain inflated-artificial market share.
iaml 5y ago
You can pay for twitch turbo and not get ads.
- eropple 5y ago
  Twitch Turbo doesn't show you video ads, but still shows you ads on the site. They just call them "promotions" instead. For $9/month, I expect peace and quiet, you know?

loceng 5y ago

And ads are literary paid by "you" (or investors hoping to eventually create a growing positive feedback loop) to to manipulate you and everyone else with cheap-shallow attempt to get you to buy a product or service and use up two of your most valuable assets - your time and your attention; you/society currently have the accepted culture to fund to using up your time and being manipulated and without accounting for the externalized cost and harm of such. Until society is educated on this harm and elects politicians who will create policy for healthy/healthier system then we'll be stuck in this state - and of course ads work, create profits, and industries with most profits have more profits to spend on advertising and on lobbying politicians of their choice to help bolster them into elected positions or to attempt to defame or suppress them directly or indirectly via funding their opposition who may engage in public or private/incognito smear campaigns - the subtly violent method compared to the method cartels use of assassinating any new political campaigners who don't fall in line with what they want. Good luck with the "no ads" effort to all though as you have the whole advertising industrial complex now disliking you or worse, you're now up against all their employees, owners, and investors of whatever part of the ecosystem they're part of - including the companies who depend on using ads for and to maintain inflated-artificial market share.

iaml 5y ago

You can pay for twitch turbo and not get ads.

eropple 5y ago
Twitch Turbo doesn't show you video ads, but still shows you ads on the site. They just call them "promotions" instead. For $9/month, I expect peace and quiet, you know?