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The FAQ sounds reasonable, but there's a lot of shady-looking stuff in the actual terms. For instance: > We may share revenue generated from the sale of Subscr
by teraflop 5y ago
The FAQ sounds reasonable, but there's a lot of shady-looking stuff in the actual terms. For instance:
> We may share revenue generated from the sale of Subscriptions to your Super Follows account with you at a rate which will depend, in Twitter’s discretion, on several factors, including the total number and price of Subscriptions purchased for your Super Follows account and the fees and taxes [...] that Apple, Google, Payment Processor, banks and/or credit card companies may assess in the purchase of Subscriptions and in processing payments to you. You understand this and should have no expectation that any particular revenue percentage will apply, or continue to apply, over time.
> We do not promise that the purchase of Subscriptions can be used to redeem any guaranteed sum of money, or any money at all. [...] You agree that we will not be liable to you, and you will not assert that we are liable to you, based on the sale of Subscriptions to your Super Follows account, including for any share of revenue generated from the sale of Subscriptions.
> We also do not guarantee that everyone with access to your Super Follows account will have purchased a Subscription.
> In addition, we reserve the rights, in our sole discretion, to [...] withhold, suspend, recoup or set-off Subscriptions revenue (including any earned balance that may have been generated from past or future Subscription sales to a Creator’s Super Follows account)
Also, this is pretty minor in the grand scheme of things, but I find it hilariously petty that legal notices to Twitter must be sent by both regular email and postal mail, and are only valid on receipt... but notices from Twitter only have to be emailed, and are presumed valid when sent. Just a straight-up "I'm big, you're little, and there's nothing you can do about it."
Compare to Patreon's TOS (https://www.patreon.com/policy/legal https://www.patreon.com/policy/legal) which explicitly lays out the fees they charge. Twitter's version is more like "fuck you, we'll pay you if we feel like it."
- LegitShady 5y agoI don't understand why they can't have reasonable terms from the get go. sketchy stuff you quoted.
- WA 5y agoStuff like this is why most people don’t want to pay and the whole thing will be labeled as "meh people vote with their wallets and they prefer ads over payments". In reality, it’s not in the company’s DNA and slapping payments with those ridiculous terms on a free product is simply not trustworthy. Patreon is the opposite: clear terms, payments is their DNA, hence people are willing to pay and support creators.