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Alternatives certainly exist - I've been moving myself rapidly in that direction after my nearly 20 years of Apple use has come to an end (at a remarkably low s
by Syonyk 5y ago
Alternatives certainly exist - I've been moving myself rapidly in that direction after my nearly 20 years of Apple use has come to an end (at a remarkably low sysadmin-hours-per-year level, that's going to go up substantially). Unfortunately, most of them aren't quite ready for standard daily driver use.
I've been daily driving a PineBook Pro, and despite some custom kernel hacking I've done, I still don't have reliably sound after sleep... unless I don't have sleep enabled properly, at which point it won't last the night on battery. Pick your poison. Or do more kernel hacking. It's something related to device sleep/resume on the audio chip, which I eventually found some NDA'd datasheets for. Fortunately, I can use 2.4GHz wifi out where I live, because 5GHz is also weirdly broken unless you perform the right incantations after power cycle.
At this point, I think "those who can" move away from the core ecosystems have an obligation to do so, and try to pave the road in front of us. Right now, it's cobblestones at best (if you ignore the potholes), and a lot of people simply won't go that way. As long as the alternatives start with "Well, as long as you don't mind..." and then a list of features people consider important... they're going to remain alternatives.
But, at the same time, I find myself considering how much hassle is worth it to "remain in the ecosystems." Yes. I can do a lot of work to smooth out rough edges, write my own kernel modules to work around hardware quirks (I really should upstream the sleep changes), figure out alternatives to things that don't work, do Matrix bridges, and...
At what point is it simply not worth it? At what point is trying to keep up with modern consumer tech, to de-fang it, and make it work for me instead against of me just more hassle than it's worth? If anything mainstream is eventually going to get updates that turn it against me (which I consider updates like this to be), then... why bother? The benefits are great, but if the downsides and workarounds and time cost are too much, then I should consider if I actually want to be part of that.
I've already done this with cell phones. Apple pissed me off with on-device CSAM scanning enough (well, that was the final straw) that I've gone back to a flip phone. I could go Pixel, Graphene, etc, but I've decided to experiment with what I actually miss out on, going back to a flip phone. I've de-fanged my previous phone a lot, so it's less of a change than for a lot of people, but... a few weeks in, I actually haven't missed a smartphone that much.
I object strongly to the whole "You pay for the tech which then collects data and makes money on the backend optimizing the advertising feed to your pair of eyeballs" model that is more and more a part of consumer tech, so perhaps the right answer is to simply opt out of it. It's a recent addition to life. We can go back to what worked before.
- GekkePrutser 5y agoYou're right... But we don't live in a vacuum. I can try to live without WhatsApp but literally everyone in Europe uses it. It's just unavoidable. And that's just one example. So, I still go the trouble to bend the ecosystems to my will... Like Matrix bridges. It's a lot of work I'll give you that.
- Syonyk 5y agoKaiOS supports WhatsApp... I'm at a point in my life where I can be a bit cranky about stuff like this - and, my views on tech are well enough known that people almost expect me to be a bit cranky about it. I recently asked someone how he'd prefer to be paid, cash or check. His response was along the lines of, "Well, I'd prefer a payment app on the phone, but I know you don't use those, so... check, easier to scan and deposit that way." If "everyone uses it because everyone uses it," well... great, there lies monopoly and abuses. I can get away with using somewhat less, without any real impact to my social or professional life - so at this point, being that friction point is perfectly fine with me. But I grew up before cell phones. I grew up before smartphones. The concept of a smartphone beyond a "lol, Crackberry, I'll bet you a beer you can't put it down on the table for half an hour and not touch it!" stage is only a decade old. In that time, it's absolutely transformed the world - and, IMO, not for the better. Our collective response to the "Crackberry" behavior was, "oooh, I want one too!" My daughter has asked for her own phone (no, you're about a decade too young). When asked what people use phones for, her response is, "I don't know... but they look like they're really interesting!" Yeah... how to cut your phone use substantially overnight. Just because the river is rushing towards "What makes tech companies the most money in the next quarter" doesn't mean we have to be part of it. And at this point, I think coming up with alternatives (technology based or not) is damned near a moral obligation.
- Jenda_ 5y agoI run WhatsApp in an Android-x86 VM and use their web client from browser. (calls don't work, though)
- asddubs 5y ago>I really should upstream the sleep changes Please do!