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I'm not grandparent poster, but depending on who supplies and configures the ID reader, a digital system makes it easier to track people. E.g. if you show your

I'm not grandparent poster, but depending on who supplies and configures the ID reader, a digital system makes it easier to track people. E.g. if you show your ID at a liquor store, currently the cashier would just check your age and then forget about you. If s/he has a barcode scanner or an Apple ID scanner, then that scanner can log your visits. And your whereabouts can be tracked by following where your ID was scanned throughtout time. In China, ID cards have RFID and they have to be scanned when entering a train station or airports (or the old town of Lhasa in Tibet), so a future government here might abuse a similar system to track you and maybe harass you by saying "You were in this area yesterday, there was $SOME_BAD_EVENT, what's your alibi?". China also implements long distance travel bans by refusing you entry to the train station/airport, e.g. if you have a bad "social score", which, I imagine would be ripe for abuse in a Trumpian regime. (Although the FBI already abused the no-fly list for the purposes of harassing individuals)

mixmastamyk 5y ago
> your whereabouts can be tracked Already are being tracked and bought and sold by third-parties without your knowledge.
- bellyfullofbac 5y ago
  So, just give up all our privacy? Again, I'm not GP, who might be more paranoid about it. And yes I have Google Maps Timeline active.
  - mixmastamyk 5y ago
    No, I was trying to make the point that the concerns are not theoretical, they are already occurring.
kalleboo 5y ago
> If s/he has a barcode scanner or an Apple ID scanner, then that scanner can log your visits This system actually lets you only supply your age to the reader and no other info, to avoid the tracking. In other discussions of this, I've learned that many shops and bars in the US already optically scan IDs to verify them digitally (not trusting staff to verify security features), so this is actually an improvement on privacy compared to before.
- namaria 5y ago
  So that means trusting software and hardware will always adhere perfectly to advertised specifications. Sounds air tight.

mixmastamyk 5y ago

> your whereabouts can be tracked Already are being tracked and bought and sold by third-parties without your knowledge.

bellyfullofbac 5y ago
So, just give up all our privacy? Again, I'm not GP, who might be more paranoid about it. And yes I have Google Maps Timeline active.
- mixmastamyk 5y ago
  No, I was trying to make the point that the concerns are not theoretical, they are already occurring.

kalleboo 5y ago

> If s/he has a barcode scanner or an Apple ID scanner, then that scanner can log your visits This system actually lets you only supply your age to the reader and no other info, to avoid the tracking. In other discussions of this, I've learned that many shops and bars in the US already optically scan IDs to verify them digitally (not trusting staff to verify security features), so this is actually an improvement on privacy compared to before.

namaria 5y ago
So that means trusting software and hardware will always adhere perfectly to advertised specifications. Sounds air tight.