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> FDIC was a pretty silly idea anyway. In 1934 (the year after the FDIC was created) the FSLIC was created[1] (Federal Savings and Loan Insurance Corporation).
by mcherm 5y ago
> FDIC was a pretty silly idea anyway.
In 1934 (the year after the FDIC was created) the FSLIC was created[1] (Federal Savings and Loan Insurance Corporation). It served the same purpose as the FDIC, but for financial institutions incorporated as Savings and Loans rather than Banks.
By 1980, the FSLIC insured approximately 4,000 savings and loan institutions with total assets of $604 billion.[2] They failed en-mass. By 1982 the net worth of the entire S&L industry was approximately 0.[2] Yet we did not have a major "run on the banks" like we had seen during the Great Depression.[3] Under federal control, the FSLIC closed or converted essentially all remaining S&Ls and that industry ceased to exist -- but WITHOUT individual citizens losing all their savings.
This was the very reason that the FDIC was created in the first place. A complete collapse has already happened once (albeit with the FSLIC, not the FDIC). FDIC regulation affects the kinds of risks that banks take even today. In fact, most every year, there are a few banks the FDIC is forced to take control of and liquidate (their ultimate power).[4]
The FDIC is VERY much a useful institution. We have chosen to expect major investors and regulators to assess the stability of banks, but to insulate individual consumers from doing so by removing their "skin in the game" and personally I believe that is the right decision as those individual investors don't have and could not obtain the information they would need to make wise choices.
[1] https://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/federal-savings-and-loan-insurance-corporation-fslic.asp https://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/federal-savings-and-loa...
[2] https://www.fdic.gov/bank/historical/history/167_188.pdf https://www.fdic.gov/bank/historical/history/167_188.pdf
[3] https://www.history.com/topics/great-depression/bank-run https://www.history.com/topics/great-depression/bank-run
[4] https://www.fdic.gov/resources/resolutions/bank-failures/failed-bank-list/ https://www.fdic.gov/resources/resolutions/bank-failures/fai...
- eru 5y agoThe counterfactual here is that without the government back-stopped insurance, customers would have had an incentive to push back against the banking behaviours that led to these mass failures. The Savings and Loan crisis also didn't happen in a vacuum. See https://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/SavingsandLoanCrisis.html https://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/SavingsandLoanCrisis.htm... for some background. A short excerpt from the start: > Federal deposit insurance, which was extended to S&Ls in 1934, was the root cause of the S&L crisis. Deposit insurance was actuarially unsound from its inception, primarily because all S&Ls were charged the same Insurance premium rate regardless of how safe or risky they were. That is, deposit insurance provided by the federal government tolerated the unsound financial structure of S&Ls for decades. No sound insurance program would have done that. Congress tried to rectify this problem in 1991 when it directed the FDIC to begin charging risk-sensitive deposit-insurance premiums. However, because those who should pay the most would scream the loudest to Congress, the FDIC’s premium structure still does not charge the riskiest banks and S&Ls enough. Much of the time, the “drunk drivers” of the S&L and banking world pay no more for their deposit insurance than do their sober siblings. Those who do pay more still do not pay enough. The article goes on to talk about regulation Q and other regulatory choices that contributed to the crises.
- mcherm 5y agoThe point you raise here about how regulatory choices contributed to the crisis is spot on. But when you say this: > customers would have had an incentive to push back against the banking behaviours that led to these mass failures I'm not persuaded. Do you think that customers would have gotten savings and loan corporate officers to provide them with detailed documentation of the S&L's risk portfolio and then would have analyzed this in detail and chosen where to save their money based on the results? Because I don't believe ANY customers could have done that. As you point out, regulators didn't even do that, and they are experts whose full-time job is to do this kind of analysis!
- eru 5y agoCustomers wouldn't generally do this themselves. They would outsource the job. Ie look for what reviews suggest etc. I can dig up how that worked in practice in the free banking eras in Scotland and Canada. > As you point out, regulators didn't even do that, and they are experts whose full-time job is to do this kind of analysis! In general the regulatory regime for banking is a bit weird in this respect: The government tends to give minimum quality standards for the balance sheets of eg banks, and then hands out an implicit (or explicit) guarantee that anything meeting these minimum standards is fine. In the regime I am suggesting the government would at most force banks to truthfully disclose what's on their balance sheet, but would not put up any minimum requirements. What happened in practice in Scotland and Canada is that banks would have very low reserves, for every 100 dollars in deposits and notes issued, they would keep around 2 dollars in gold around. (The equivalent today would be central bank reserves.) Basically, just enough to meet redemption demands in the short term. But to make up for that, they would keep very thick loss-absorbing equity cushions. Typically about one third of their balance sheet were financed by shareholder equity, and the other two thirds with deposits and bonds etc. Banks also put these equity cushions in their advertisements to prospective customers. So it seems they believed that customers cared about them. In some instances, shareholders and directors were also personally liable for losses beyond their paid-in capital. (Ie no limited liability shield for them.) Interesting enough, the latter is also how eg Goldman Sachs used to be run when it was still a partnership and not a public company. If you want to know more, have a look at eg http://files.libertyfund.org/files/2307/Selgin_1544_Bk.pdf http://files.libertyfund.org/files/2307/Selgin_1544_Bk.pdf (https://www.iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/upldbook98pdf.pdf https://www.iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/file... is also quite interesting, but on a slightly different topic.)