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It’s not “wrong”, but it’s annoying. They’re asking me to invest into their platform, but they’re also constantly increasing the price and/or making it more res

It’s not “wrong”, but it’s annoying. They’re asking me to invest into their platform, but they’re also constantly increasing the price and/or making it more restrictive. This makes it hard for me to understand the long term cost of a commitment.

yunohn 5y ago
They’re now charging for the GUI they have developed, while the core of Docker is still free. Someone has to fund continued development, asking companies for a fee feels quite logical. Seems to me that a value-add tool makes sense to commercialize. It doesn’t provide a large array of features yet, but this funding will help with that. If you don’t find it useful enough for the fee, clearly you’re better off with CLI or alternative GUIs.
- nerdjon 5y ago
  What features? Are people really asking for more features for Docker Desktop? I know for me I install it, let it do its setup, and then I do everything from the Docker CLI as if I was on a linux machine. It has k8s built in if you want to add that also. We are not talking about a tool here that needs a ton of functionality. But they have become (seemingly at least) the standard tool to have a more consistent Docker setup on Mac or Windows compared to where it will eventually be deployed (Linux). Once you have it setup you should be using the CLI. I feel like they are severely overestimating the software, I am anticipating several open source alternatives to quickly become available since it wouldn't (or shouldn't) change your workflow at all to put in another alternative. Edit: TBH I often forget docker desktop is sitting there until it starts asking me to update... so this is a perfect opportunity to replace it.
  - yunohn 5y ago
    You’re the perfect out of market example. Use other tools, and be content. Of course, they’re not charging individuals, so I’m not sure why you’re complaining.
    - nerdjon 5y ago
      Because I work at a company that I would have to justify the subscription too?
      - yunohn 5y ago
        But you’re not using it? You stated that you don’t even know it was running - clearly you don’t even need a GUI, just CLI.
        nerdjon 5y ago
        No, I said I forget it is running. That is not because I am not using it, but I am indirectly using it by working with the Docker CLI. What it does is very valuable, but it is a perfect candidate to be replaced by an open source alternative as long as I can continue to use the Docker CLI.
        yunohn 5y ago
        Who’s going to fund your open source alternative? Definitely not you, since Docker asking companies to pay a fee is somehow preposterous.
    - ramsrib 5y ago
      Docker is a valuable product only because of the CLI, not for the GUI. To be honest, no one wants their GUI. It's unfortunate Docker as a company only promotes the Docker Desktop (with GUI) for Mac and Windows.
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yunohn 5y ago

They’re now charging for the GUI they have developed, while the core of Docker is still free. Someone has to fund continued development, asking companies for a fee feels quite logical. Seems to me that a value-add tool makes sense to commercialize. It doesn’t provide a large array of features yet, but this funding will help with that. If you don’t find it useful enough for the fee, clearly you’re better off with CLI or alternative GUIs.

nerdjon 5y ago
What features? Are people really asking for more features for Docker Desktop? I know for me I install it, let it do its setup, and then I do everything from the Docker CLI as if I was on a linux machine. It has k8s built in if you want to add that also. We are not talking about a tool here that needs a ton of functionality. But they have become (seemingly at least) the standard tool to have a more consistent Docker setup on Mac or Windows compared to where it will eventually be deployed (Linux). Once you have it setup you should be using the CLI. I feel like they are severely overestimating the software, I am anticipating several open source alternatives to quickly become available since it wouldn't (or shouldn't) change your workflow at all to put in another alternative. Edit: TBH I often forget docker desktop is sitting there until it starts asking me to update... so this is a perfect opportunity to replace it.
- yunohn 5y ago
  You’re the perfect out of market example. Use other tools, and be content. Of course, they’re not charging individuals, so I’m not sure why you’re complaining.
  - nerdjon 5y ago
    Because I work at a company that I would have to justify the subscription too?
    - yunohn 5y ago
      But you’re not using it? You stated that you don’t even know it was running - clearly you don’t even need a GUI, just CLI.
      - nerdjon 5y ago
        No, I said I forget it is running. That is not because I am not using it, but I am indirectly using it by working with the Docker CLI. What it does is very valuable, but it is a perfect candidate to be replaced by an open source alternative as long as I can continue to use the Docker CLI.
        yunohn 5y ago
        Who’s going to fund your open source alternative? Definitely not you, since Docker asking companies to pay a fee is somehow preposterous.
  - ramsrib 5y ago
    Docker is a valuable product only because of the CLI, not for the GUI. To be honest, no one wants their GUI. It's unfortunate Docker as a company only promotes the Docker Desktop (with GUI) for Mac and Windows.
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