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ThinkPads are still the name of the game for enterprise laptop deployments. AFAIK, they don't contain any preloaded stuff beyond the OEM app (Lenovo Vantage). S

ThinkPads are still the name of the game for enterprise laptop deployments. AFAIK, they don't contain any preloaded stuff beyond the OEM app (Lenovo Vantage). Some enterprises prefer the more stripped down Lenovo System Update instead, although I think users may need Vantage to change some hotkey, etc. settings. Still, for a business with stricter security standards, it would be ideal to do a clean reimage of all new laptops regardless of vendor, and specifically add only the necessary drivers, etc.

shawnz 5y ago
At my workplace we use all Dell, including the laptops, and I've been mostly happy with them.
- bellyfullofbac 5y ago
  Did you get extra warranty? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go5tLO6ipxw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go5tLO6ipxw TL;DW: they did a secret shopper laptop buying experience, the sales rep pushed the extra warranty hard, and included it (at cost) despite the buyer declining it.
sneak 5y ago
> ThinkPads are still the name of the game for enterprise laptop deployments. I suppose startups (where but everybody is on a Mac) are not enterprises, then? > Still, for a business with stricter security standards, it would be ideal to do a clean reimage of all new laptops regardless of vendor, and specifically add only the necessary drivers, etc. There were some Lenovos that had vendor crapware in the EFI partition that would get auto-reinstalled by Windows when you’d do a fresh install.
- jonathantf2 5y ago
  >I suppose startups (where but everybody is on a Mac) are not enterprises, then? Mac computers are not enterprise computers. They're first and foremost consumer machines.
smlacy 5y ago
> Still, for a business with stricter security standards, it would be ideal to do a clean reimage of all new laptops regardless of vendor, and specifically add only the necessary drivers, etc. This is what I've done with virtually every machine I've personally owned for oh... the last 20 years? Why is this not people's defacto way of setting up a new machine? It's obvious that preinstalls are full of bloatware and spyware. The only issue (primarily from the past) is that specialty hardware may not work without vendor-provided drivers. That's largely no longer true, especially for the big-name brands like Lenovo, Dell, Acer, ec.
GekkePrutser 5y ago
Thinkpads are actually from a completely different factory than the Ideapads. We have a lot of Thinkpads at work and we just can't even order an Ideapad or other consumer models like Legion if we wanted to. They just won't sell them to us. We've tried to get some because some developers needed GTX cards. It's like there's 2 Lenovo companies just having the same name. I'd trust the B2B Lenovo not to put spyware on their systems (even though I'd reinstall them just in case). At work they even preinstall our images for us. But the B2C Lenovo is a totally different beast and this is where the Superfish rootkit appeared. The total build of the machines is also very different. Cheap plastic feel, lacking the amazing keyboards etc. I love the thinkpad look and feel and hate the Ideapad ones (and the Thinkpads that are really ideapads, I think the E series (Or is it the L? I always mix those up)
908B64B197 5y ago
I don't think I saw any last time I strolled on University Ave.
swiley 5y ago
The last few companies I worked at were 100% Dells and Macs.

shawnz 5y ago

At my workplace we use all Dell, including the laptops, and I've been mostly happy with them.

bellyfullofbac 5y ago
Did you get extra warranty? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go5tLO6ipxw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go5tLO6ipxw TL;DW: they did a secret shopper laptop buying experience, the sales rep pushed the extra warranty hard, and included it (at cost) despite the buyer declining it.

sneak 5y ago

> ThinkPads are still the name of the game for enterprise laptop deployments. I suppose startups (where but everybody is on a Mac) are not enterprises, then? > Still, for a business with stricter security standards, it would be ideal to do a clean reimage of all new laptops regardless of vendor, and specifically add only the necessary drivers, etc. There were some Lenovos that had vendor crapware in the EFI partition that would get auto-reinstalled by Windows when you’d do a fresh install.

jonathantf2 5y ago
>I suppose startups (where but everybody is on a Mac) are not enterprises, then? Mac computers are not enterprise computers. They're first and foremost consumer machines.

smlacy 5y ago

> Still, for a business with stricter security standards, it would be ideal to do a clean reimage of all new laptops regardless of vendor, and specifically add only the necessary drivers, etc. This is what I've done with virtually every machine I've personally owned for oh... the last 20 years? Why is this not people's defacto way of setting up a new machine? It's obvious that preinstalls are full of bloatware and spyware. The only issue (primarily from the past) is that specialty hardware may not work without vendor-provided drivers. That's largely no longer true, especially for the big-name brands like Lenovo, Dell, Acer, ec.

GekkePrutser 5y ago

Thinkpads are actually from a completely different factory than the Ideapads. We have a lot of Thinkpads at work and we just can't even order an Ideapad or other consumer models like Legion if we wanted to. They just won't sell them to us. We've tried to get some because some developers needed GTX cards. It's like there's 2 Lenovo companies just having the same name. I'd trust the B2B Lenovo not to put spyware on their systems (even though I'd reinstall them just in case). At work they even preinstall our images for us. But the B2C Lenovo is a totally different beast and this is where the Superfish rootkit appeared. The total build of the machines is also very different. Cheap plastic feel, lacking the amazing keyboards etc. I love the thinkpad look and feel and hate the Ideapad ones (and the Thinkpads that are really ideapads, I think the E series (Or is it the L? I always mix those up)

908B64B197 5y ago

I don't think I saw any last time I strolled on University Ave.

swiley 5y ago

The last few companies I worked at were 100% Dells and Macs.