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I hope they succeed in this business model. In this day and age that companies and government want more and more control over our machines, we should prefer the
by ducktective 5y ago
I hope they succeed in this business model. In this day and age that companies and government want more and more control over our machines, we should prefer these transparent products even if it performs slightly worse than state-of-the-art.
If you're wondering about NixOS experience on Framework laptop, there is this blog post I've recently read:
https://grahamc.com/blog/nixos-on-framework https://grahamc.com/blog/nixos-on-framework
- cf100clunk 5y agoThere is a need for this, but is there a large enough market? I will look seriously at this product for my next laptop. It seems to follow a similar philosophy in the notebook market as Purism's does in the mini-PC, rack server, and mobile phone markets.
- turbinerneiter 5y agoPruism, Framework, System76 - I think it's less about whether the market is big enough, but more about other effects that allow you to survive in smaller niches. I think today it is just became cheaper for sample companies to offer laptops that can compete with the big names. The Clevo machines of old looked really bad next to a MacBook, today, while still less nice, they are flat and light and minimal as well.
- TheRealDunkirk 5y ago> Pruism, Framework, System76 If there's anything that the past 20 years of American Capitalism has taught us: these companies should all merge, integrate their hardware and software, and then get a bunch of VC money until they are the single, truly-free personal hardware vendor in the market.
- nrp 5y agoThe key to the market size is that we've designed the Framework Laptop to be a real substitute for a Dell XPS, Microsoft Surface Laptop, HP Spectre, or ThinkPad for more mainstream audiences who want to run Windows 10. The size, weight, performance, display, and general look and feel are on par with those products, and then within those constraints, we've enabled customization, upgradeability, and repairability. Today it's likely we're bootstrapping off of more niche, enthusiast audiences to reach the mainstream, but over the longer term, the mainstream helps us fuel the ecosystem to keep delivering awesome products for smaller audiences.
- lostapathy 5y agoI desperately want this to succeed as well. Enough that I've got a preorder that's supposed to ship this week. I'm willing to take the gamble. Sometimes you have to help fund the change you want to see in the world.
- bastardoperator 5y agoI can't see this succeeding when the laptop I have to assemble myself costs more than a prebuilt laptop with much better specs. I love the idea too, but the price seems a little outrageous.
- marcus_holmes 5y agoI have a Purism laptop, over 2 years old now so out of warranty. The USB system had a problem last month. Purism shipped me a new motherboard at cost within a few days. I happily swapped out the old motherboard (a bit fiddly in places, but perfectly straightforward). Laptop is fine, I'm typing this on it now. I've had problems with Dells before - if it's out of warranty then tough, nothing we can do. I had a screen fail on my 2014 Macbook - luckily in warranty so I got a new screen, but it took a week for them to do it. And, of course, I can upgrade the memory and/or drive any time I like - they're easily accessible and stock parts that I can buy from anywhere. I think the trade-off on price for this repairability is well worth it. If I'd bought a Dell instead of a Purism I'd be SOL and looking at the cost of a whole new laptop now.
- kiba 5y agoBut replacing a whole motherboard just to fix a few usb ports?
- marcus_holmes 5y agoI'm no hardware expert, but I gather the USB2 subsystem had failed, and that required the motherboard replacement. Made sense to me.
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