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I'm someone who has lived both in UK and now in the US. UK has a huge issue with racism that people don't even want to acknowledge. The prejudice, micro aggres

I'm someone who has lived both in UK and now in the US. UK has a huge issue with racism that people don't even want to acknowledge. The prejudice, micro aggressions, general nastiness from people is extremely off-putting in UK. In the US nearly every city with over 1 mil in population is open to conversations about racial discrimination, and individuals generally do a good job and admit fault when some behavior is called out. The opposite of this holds for UK. Pointing out racist behavior becomes denial. Everyone thinks that because they're not the US they're saints and have no racial issues. This has been the experience of a bunch of my brown European friends as well. US is genuinely better when dealing with other people.

native_samples 5y ago
You appear to be redefining racism as "willing to agree with me when I assert everything is racist". You aren't naming any specific problem you saw with actual racism, only that people react badly when you claim it's everywhere. But as you use words like micro-aggressions we can safely assume you're the type of person who led to lists like this: https://twitter.com/titaniamcgrath/status/1281023987242487808?lang=en https://twitter.com/titaniamcgrath/status/128102398724248780... Don't conflate woke identity politics with racism. They are fundamentally different. British people are right to reject your America-centric obsession with finding racism in everything, given the UK's excellent track record.
- aaomidi 5y ago
  > Don't conflate woke identity politics with racism. They are fundamentally different. British people are right to reject your America-centric obsession with finding racism in everything, given the UK's excellent track record. Again, this is what I mean by British people refusing to engage with my experiences as a brown person living in UK. Building up a strawman, then assuming I'm part of that strawman, then dismissing it does no one any good. In Primary school in UK I (and all the non-white) kids were segregated in seating. I was always assigned seating near other brown kids. When out shopping with my parents, in smaller stores we were "stalked" to make sure we didn't steal anything. This did not happen to our white friends that we asked to keep an eye out for this behavior. In school plays, the non-white kids were always assigned the side-roles and the "peasant" roles. E.g. I was assigned to be a "chimney cleaner", which involved the makeup people spreading black ink all over myface and essentially making me do blackface. But sure, this is just woke politics and you know everything about our lives.
icare_1er 5y ago
"micro-aggressions", lol... i know that argument... By liberal standards, being asked what your accent is, becomes the equivalent of being beaten to death by the KKK. Stop wanting so hard to be a victim.
- aaomidi 5y ago
  Have you considered asking what are the micro-aggressions instead of building up a strawman to fight it?

native_samples 5y ago

You appear to be redefining racism as "willing to agree with me when I assert everything is racist". You aren't naming any specific problem you saw with actual racism, only that people react badly when you claim it's everywhere. But as you use words like micro-aggressions we can safely assume you're the type of person who led to lists like this: https://twitter.com/titaniamcgrath/status/1281023987242487808?lang=en https://twitter.com/titaniamcgrath/status/128102398724248780... Don't conflate woke identity politics with racism. They are fundamentally different. British people are right to reject your America-centric obsession with finding racism in everything, given the UK's excellent track record.

aaomidi 5y ago
> Don't conflate woke identity politics with racism. They are fundamentally different. British people are right to reject your America-centric obsession with finding racism in everything, given the UK's excellent track record. Again, this is what I mean by British people refusing to engage with my experiences as a brown person living in UK. Building up a strawman, then assuming I'm part of that strawman, then dismissing it does no one any good. In Primary school in UK I (and all the non-white) kids were segregated in seating. I was always assigned seating near other brown kids. When out shopping with my parents, in smaller stores we were "stalked" to make sure we didn't steal anything. This did not happen to our white friends that we asked to keep an eye out for this behavior. In school plays, the non-white kids were always assigned the side-roles and the "peasant" roles. E.g. I was assigned to be a "chimney cleaner", which involved the makeup people spreading black ink all over myface and essentially making me do blackface. But sure, this is just woke politics and you know everything about our lives.

icare_1er 5y ago

"micro-aggressions", lol... i know that argument... By liberal standards, being asked what your accent is, becomes the equivalent of being beaten to death by the KKK. Stop wanting so hard to be a victim.

aaomidi 5y ago
Have you considered asking what are the micro-aggressions instead of building up a strawman to fight it?