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How old are their machines? Apple's next MacOS version supports MacBooks Pros going back to 2015. Seven years is a pretty long support cycle.

by cguess 5y ago

jeroenhd 5y ago
Is it? Windows has always had an extended support life cycle if ten years, and Windows 11 is heavily criticised for their new restrictions on hardware. I've seen Windows 10 run just fine on budget devices that go further back than that. You can get the most recent Ubuntu LTS to run on a ten year old Thinkpad without issue. The performance may be limited bytthe hardware, but the software isn't the problem here. Honestly, if I were to pay the premium prices Apple asks for their products, I'd expect them to outsupport a bunch of hackers that had nothing to do with the hardware.
- masalah 5y ago
  It's ridiculous how people downvote this and support apple and other corps rendering otherwise fine hardware into waste
arepublicadoceu 5y ago
Oh my, the mobile market really skewed our perception of reasonable support cycle. What a crazy world where 7 years is a “pretty long support cycle” for personal computers. I have money to spend on computers but I still use a 10 years old laptop running windows and Linux (both supported) and with absolutely no desire to upgrade it as it runs better than when I bought it (after a ssd swap and more memory). There’s nothing that I do on my personal computer that would be improved by purchasing a new machine. Same goes with most people I know.
- sofixa 5y ago
  > I have money to spend on computers but I still use a 10 years old laptop running windows and Linux (both supported) For Windows that will stop in 2025(EOS for Windows 10 and Windows 11 has requirements that basically require <3-4 year old machine)
pantalaimon 5y ago
I'm still on Ivy Bridge (2012) and it works just fine with the latest & greatest Linux software.
Joeri 5y ago
On top of that I don’t think anything older than a core 2 duo is fast enough to use for web browsing, and most of those macs can be patched up to big sur using the various community patchers.
yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago
> Seven years is a pretty long support cycle. Linux and BSDs happily support decade+ hardware, and sibling comments say similar things for Windows, so not really.

How old are their machines? Apple's next MacOS version supports MacBooks Pros going back to 2015. Seven years is a pretty long support cycle.

by cguess 5y ago

How old are their machines? Apple's next MacOS version supports MacBooks Pros going back to 2015. Seven years is a pretty long support cycle.

jeroenhd 5y ago

Is it? Windows has always had an extended support life cycle if ten years, and Windows 11 is heavily criticised for their new restrictions on hardware. I've seen Windows 10 run just fine on budget devices that go further back than that. You can get the most recent Ubuntu LTS to run on a ten year old Thinkpad without issue. The performance may be limited bytthe hardware, but the software isn't the problem here. Honestly, if I were to pay the premium prices Apple asks for their products, I'd expect them to outsupport a bunch of hackers that had nothing to do with the hardware.

masalah 5y ago
It's ridiculous how people downvote this and support apple and other corps rendering otherwise fine hardware into waste

arepublicadoceu 5y ago

Oh my, the mobile market really skewed our perception of reasonable support cycle. What a crazy world where 7 years is a “pretty long support cycle” for personal computers. I have money to spend on computers but I still use a 10 years old laptop running windows and Linux (both supported) and with absolutely no desire to upgrade it as it runs better than when I bought it (after a ssd swap and more memory). There’s nothing that I do on my personal computer that would be improved by purchasing a new machine. Same goes with most people I know.

sofixa 5y ago
> I have money to spend on computers but I still use a 10 years old laptop running windows and Linux (both supported) For Windows that will stop in 2025(EOS for Windows 10 and Windows 11 has requirements that basically require <3-4 year old machine)

pantalaimon 5y ago

I'm still on Ivy Bridge (2012) and it works just fine with the latest & greatest Linux software.

Joeri 5y ago

On top of that I don’t think anything older than a core 2 duo is fast enough to use for web browsing, and most of those macs can be patched up to big sur using the various community patchers.

yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago

> Seven years is a pretty long support cycle. Linux and BSDs happily support decade+ hardware, and sibling comments say similar things for Windows, so not really.