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You don't need to unlock your phone to show this ID though...
by jnsie 5y ago
You don't need to unlock your phone to show this ID though...
- duxup 5y agoIt would seem that those darned product managers did in fact think through a few things.
- rangerdan 5y agoTranslation: police can now identify you with your permission.
- ianhawes 5y agoNot only that but you are legally permitted to withdraw your consent to search at any time. Just merely handing your phone to an officer unlocked does not permit a limitless search and seizure. However if during that time the officer sees material that constitutes probable cause for a search, they can seize the phone without your ability to withdraw consent. IANAL
- dotBen 5y agoAs mentioned in my previous comment, a lawyer told me you can't arbitrarily withdraw your consent in that way you are describing. The police officer may also have taken your phone back to their car to use the ID details to write up the ticket so you can't easily ask form the phone back at that point.
- protect2 5y ago> You don't need to unlock your phone to show this ID though... That is precisely the problem. Now you will be identified without your consent, and perhaps even without your knowledge. Tomorrow you will be tattooed so it's even easier. Watch Idiocracy if you don't believe me.
- fitblipper 5y agoHowever it'll very likely require first unlock which puts the phone in a very vulnerable state (storing unencrypted data, or at least the keys in memory). It is way easier for law enforcement to get into phones after first unlock than it is from a powered down phone.
- CubsFan1060 5y agoAre you just making up things? “ Users do not need to unlock, show, or hand over their device to present their ID.” https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2021/09/apple-announces-first-states-to-adopt-drivers-licenses-and-state-ids-in-wallet/ https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2021/09/apple-announces-first...
- fitblipper 5y agoBefore First Unlock (BFU) is a term used to describe the state of your phone after it has booted and been unlocked at least once. Even if locked again, the phone is still in a less secured state until it has been shut down again. The linked to quote does not describe it's ability to function before first unlock. Many phone functions are disabled in the BFU state.
- fitblipper 5y agoHere is a link of a news article discussing research done on the vulnerabilities associated with phones in an AFU state https://9to5mac.com/2021/01/14/johns-hopkins-ios-vulnerabilities/ https://9to5mac.com/2021/01/14/johns-hopkins-ios-vulnerabili...