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This ends in radicalisation and Mao style "Land Reform" - the old and the wealthy refuse to address this problem at their own future peril.

by reedf1 5y ago

throwaway0a5e 5y ago
How do you get to Mao though? You can't have land reform at the behest of a strong centralized government without a strong centralized government. It takes a lot of shooting to get from here to there and the end result isn't guaranteed. Once you have instability things could go any which way. You could get Mao, you could get Hitler, or you could get the Balkans.
- wayoutthere 5y ago
  Doesn’t take a clairvoyant to realize that given our current political trajectory, the 2030s are gonna be wild. The right has been armed for years and the left just bought millions of guns over the last year.
  - KittenInABox 5y ago
    It's going to be more difficult to actually use the guns though, as there's been an import ban on Russian ammo, which is a huge chunk of the ammo market that's already being squeezed. At this rate only the wealthy will be able to afford to arm themselves/revolt. https://www.state.gov/fact-sheet-united-states-imposes-additional-costs-on-russia-for-the-poisoning-of-aleksey-navalny/ https://www.state.gov/fact-sheet-united-states-imposes-addit...
    - wayoutthere 5y ago
      The import ban is going to be less impactful than the Biden administration likely hoped. Russian firearms imports were already banned, and ammo prices haven’t risen significantly for non-Russian calibers since the ban was announced; all it did was cut out the cheap steel at the bottom of the market (which, unless it’s an AK pattern gun, is exclusively practice ammo anyway because it’s not very reliable or accurate). The most likely scenario is that the cheap steel ammo just gets made in former combloc countries instead and imported to the US from Serbia or Czech Republic. Ammunition is also a global market, so that cheap Russian ammo will get dumped somewhere, and wherever that happens will then export more to the US to meet the demand.
  - AnimalMuppet 5y ago
    The 2030s are going to be wild? Wow, are you an optimist. I worry about trouble long before then...
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This ends in radicalisation and Mao style "Land Reform" - the old and the wealthy refuse to address this problem at their own future peril.

by reedf1 5y ago

This ends in radicalisation and Mao style "Land Reform" - the old and the wealthy refuse to address this problem at their own future peril.

throwaway0a5e 5y ago

How do you get to Mao though? You can't have land reform at the behest of a strong centralized government without a strong centralized government. It takes a lot of shooting to get from here to there and the end result isn't guaranteed. Once you have instability things could go any which way. You could get Mao, you could get Hitler, or you could get the Balkans.

wayoutthere 5y ago
Doesn’t take a clairvoyant to realize that given our current political trajectory, the 2030s are gonna be wild. The right has been armed for years and the left just bought millions of guns over the last year.
- KittenInABox 5y ago
  It's going to be more difficult to actually use the guns though, as there's been an import ban on Russian ammo, which is a huge chunk of the ammo market that's already being squeezed. At this rate only the wealthy will be able to afford to arm themselves/revolt. https://www.state.gov/fact-sheet-united-states-imposes-additional-costs-on-russia-for-the-poisoning-of-aleksey-navalny/ https://www.state.gov/fact-sheet-united-states-imposes-addit...
  - wayoutthere 5y ago
    The import ban is going to be less impactful than the Biden administration likely hoped. Russian firearms imports were already banned, and ammo prices haven’t risen significantly for non-Russian calibers since the ban was announced; all it did was cut out the cheap steel at the bottom of the market (which, unless it’s an AK pattern gun, is exclusively practice ammo anyway because it’s not very reliable or accurate). The most likely scenario is that the cheap steel ammo just gets made in former combloc countries instead and imported to the US from Serbia or Czech Republic. Ammunition is also a global market, so that cheap Russian ammo will get dumped somewhere, and wherever that happens will then export more to the US to meet the demand.
- AnimalMuppet 5y ago
  The 2030s are going to be wild? Wow, are you an optimist. I worry about trouble long before then...
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