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IntelliJ community edition is free and modern and well maintained, and if you're buying an enterprise edition you probably got your feet wet with the free versi

IntelliJ community edition is free and modern and well maintained, and if you're buying an enterprise edition you probably got your feet wet with the free version first. Lispworks for individuals is still close to a thousand dollars and from the screenshots I could find anyway looks ancient.

lispm 5y ago
If you want to check out the look & feel of LispWorks, there is a Personal Edition for that purpose: http://www.lispworks.com/downloads/index.html http://www.lispworks.com/downloads/index.html
- nerdponx 5y ago
  For what it's worth, IntelliJ CE has a lot fewer restrictions than LispWorks PE. This is fine for a software evaluation period / demo, but it's not at all equivalent to the IntelliJ free offerings: > There is a heap size limit which, if exceeded, causes the image to exit. A warning is provided when the limit is approached. > There is a time limit of 5 hours for each session, after which LispWorks Personal exits, possibly without saving your work or performing cleanups such as removing temporary files. You are warned after 4 hours of use. > The functions save-image, deliver, and load-all-patches are not available. > Initialization files are not loaded. On the other hand, I do wish more "expensive" software came with a demo mode like this (e.g. Mathematica).
  - lispm 5y ago
    > but it's not at all equivalent to the IntelliJ free offerings true, but for finding out the look & feel it's sufficient. Sometimes this also has been used in educational settings. For those who want to get a feeling for the full product, LispWorks has full trial licenses.
    - kamaal 5y ago
      Sorry but this really feels like the Lisp people have something very precious and they want to be very careful and ration what and how much they want to share with common people. The entire ecosystem at this point screams that people who can't spend significant portion of their lives fanatically dedicated to the Lisp cause are better off not even starting with this.
      - lispm 5y ago
        Those are the surving vendors: higher-end tools for a niche market. The other vendors did not survive for various reasons. It has been tried.

lispm 5y ago

If you want to check out the look & feel of LispWorks, there is a Personal Edition for that purpose: http://www.lispworks.com/downloads/index.html http://www.lispworks.com/downloads/index.html

nerdponx 5y ago
For what it's worth, IntelliJ CE has a lot fewer restrictions than LispWorks PE. This is fine for a software evaluation period / demo, but it's not at all equivalent to the IntelliJ free offerings: > There is a heap size limit which, if exceeded, causes the image to exit. A warning is provided when the limit is approached. > There is a time limit of 5 hours for each session, after which LispWorks Personal exits, possibly without saving your work or performing cleanups such as removing temporary files. You are warned after 4 hours of use. > The functions save-image, deliver, and load-all-patches are not available. > Initialization files are not loaded. On the other hand, I do wish more "expensive" software came with a demo mode like this (e.g. Mathematica).
- lispm 5y ago
  > but it's not at all equivalent to the IntelliJ free offerings true, but for finding out the look & feel it's sufficient. Sometimes this also has been used in educational settings. For those who want to get a feeling for the full product, LispWorks has full trial licenses.
  - kamaal 5y ago
    Sorry but this really feels like the Lisp people have something very precious and they want to be very careful and ration what and how much they want to share with common people. The entire ecosystem at this point screams that people who can't spend significant portion of their lives fanatically dedicated to the Lisp cause are better off not even starting with this.
    - lispm 5y ago
      Those are the surving vendors: higher-end tools for a niche market. The other vendors did not survive for various reasons. It has been tried.