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My general feeling is "good riddance". As someone with autism, I find professional business environments entirely navigable, and have been able to thrive in th
by teakettle42 5y ago
My general feeling is "good riddance".
As someone with autism, I find professional business environments entirely navigable, and have been able to thrive in them. Almost all interactions — even those involving professional workplace politics — conform to a reasonable set of established rules.
The people involved with these Slack channels and associated "organizing" efforts are consistently bringing their (eminently messy) "whole self" to work, and the result is a corrosively unprofessional mess — one that they want to introduce to the rest of the company.
I do not trust for a second that salary transparency, with these individuals, would lead to more fair, equitable outcomes for us all. I do not trust that they would evaluate the information maturely, with an understanding of the complex variables at play.
I do not trust that they wouldn't use further politicking and social dominance games (including leaking to The Verge) to advance their own personal or political interests, at a cost to others.
Ultimately, I shouldn't have to navigate their complex, subjective, toxic social hierarchies — which have nothing to do with advancing business objectives — just to get through my business day and be successful in my job.
- bastawhiz 5y agoNobody is forcing anyone to join a chat room to discuss their own or others' salaries.
- teakettle42 5y agoVerge has been publishing leaks to support this group for months now, and it's disingenuous to suggest, given the body of evidence, that voluntary pay transparency is the extent of their organizing or goals.
- bastawhiz 5y agoWhat do you care? Honestly, so what if Apple employees unionize? They get what...better pay? They have greater equity in the trillion dollars of value that they've created? Even if pay transparency was a small step towards organization, you say that as if it is a bad thing. The only people who benefit from suppressing organization are the executives and biggest shareholders at Apple.
- teakettle42 5y ago> I do not trust for a second that salary transparency, with these individuals, would lead to more fair, equitable outcomes for us all. I do not trust that they would evaluate the information maturely, with an understanding of the complex variables at play. > I do not trust that they wouldn't use further politicking and social dominance games (including leaking to The Verge) to advance their own personal or political interests, at a cost to others.