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The charge was for drug paraphernalia. There should be no respect at all of a tyrant enforcing such laws.

jjulius 5y ago
I don't disagree with you in regards to the need to greatly reform how we handle and prosecute (or don't prosecute) drug-related crimes, but having said that, what is the judge to do? Ignore a law and sentencing guidelines entirely?
- Sargos 5y ago
  If they had any morals yes. The fact that they sentence people to be held in cages for victimless crimes means they don't deserve the respect they needlessly demand from others.
  - quantumBerry 5y ago
    It's pretty clear HN isn't in support of even the notion that enforcement of victimless drug laws is tyrannical. This is a terrifying but accurate view of our current society.
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    - jjulius 5y ago
      Woosh.
      - quantumBerry 5y ago
        aye.
- quantumBerry 5y ago
  Due process requires judges to recuse themselves when there is a strong possibility they will be biased (such as believing it is a BS law that requires no punishment). If every single judge does this, eventually the state is going to run out of resources to try the case. A nice start would be to recognize having "buttfucker 3000" in your name might simply be an acknowledgement of the unjust law and probably circumstances (found in traffic stop, likely questionable 4A grounds) (although the article states that he stated it was unintentional.) So the easiest thing would have been just to let it slide and continue on like it doesn't exist. Judge could also instruct jurors on "jury nullification" or make the prosecutor's life hell in other ways if they bring about these cases. Yes I think there is a moral duty to ignore an unjust law, even if it is illegal to do so.
  - gsk22 5y ago
    What are the limits to your proposed recognition of his frustration? Is the name "fuckthelaw" ok? How about "judgefucker 3000"? What if they include the name of a witness or victim in their name ("fuck <witness>")? What if it contains a racial, ethnic or religious slur? Court isn't an MMO; you don't get to choose a pithy username. You use your legal name, and the judge is right to enforce that.
    - quantumBerry 5y ago
      Well when you're there for a victimless crime of some cop searched your car during a traffic stop and found a syringe, I'd say "fuck the state, the judge, and the cop witness" probably wouldn't be going to far. You're the one wanting to judge people's speech, not I.
- ebeip90 5y ago
  Yes.

I don't disagree with you in regards to the need to greatly reform how we handle and prosecute (or don't prosecute) drug-related crimes, but having said that, what is the judge to do? Ignore a law and sentencing guidelines entirely?

Sargos 5y ago
If they had any morals yes. The fact that they sentence people to be held in cages for victimless crimes means they don't deserve the respect they needlessly demand from others.
- quantumBerry 5y ago
  It's pretty clear HN isn't in support of even the notion that enforcement of victimless drug laws is tyrannical. This is a terrifying but accurate view of our current society.
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  - jjulius 5y ago
    Woosh.
    - quantumBerry 5y ago
      aye.
quantumBerry 5y ago
Due process requires judges to recuse themselves when there is a strong possibility they will be biased (such as believing it is a BS law that requires no punishment). If every single judge does this, eventually the state is going to run out of resources to try the case. A nice start would be to recognize having "buttfucker 3000" in your name might simply be an acknowledgement of the unjust law and probably circumstances (found in traffic stop, likely questionable 4A grounds) (although the article states that he stated it was unintentional.) So the easiest thing would have been just to let it slide and continue on like it doesn't exist. Judge could also instruct jurors on "jury nullification" or make the prosecutor's life hell in other ways if they bring about these cases. Yes I think there is a moral duty to ignore an unjust law, even if it is illegal to do so.
- gsk22 5y ago
  What are the limits to your proposed recognition of his frustration? Is the name "fuckthelaw" ok? How about "judgefucker 3000"? What if they include the name of a witness or victim in their name ("fuck <witness>")? What if it contains a racial, ethnic or religious slur? Court isn't an MMO; you don't get to choose a pithy username. You use your legal name, and the judge is right to enforce that.
  - quantumBerry 5y ago
    Well when you're there for a victimless crime of some cop searched your car during a traffic stop and found a syringe, I'd say "fuck the state, the judge, and the cop witness" probably wouldn't be going to far. You're the one wanting to judge people's speech, not I.
ebeip90 5y ago
Yes.