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> perfect relative pitch is completely learnable Can I ask how you recommend that a person do that?

jacquesm 5y ago
I've put some links in a comment below to help with pitch and interval training.
klodolph 5y ago
Practice transcribing music. There are also simple ear training applications you can get for your phone. Relative pitch is a fairly simple concept, so there's a proliferation of apps that teach it, at least to a basic level. It's also common to have a library of songs in your head that start off with each interval. Everything from "Für Elise" for the minor second, to "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" for an octave.
sharkjacobs 5y ago
I used to have a music teacher who taught me to practice by associating the openings of common songs with each interval I've forgotten most of them now but the Jaws theme "duh-duh-duh-duh" is a minor 2nd, Twinkle Twinkle little star is a perfect 5th, and "my bon-" of My Bonnie Lies Over the Ocean" is a major 6th
Bud 5y ago
The same way it's taught if you go to music school. Practice. Have music played to you, and write it down. Start with very short pitch sequences; this will require you, of course, to learn to recognize intervals accurately. Then move on to longer and more complex sequences. Lather, rinse, repeat.
pvarangot 5y ago
If a beginners point of view is useful, let me tell you I'm using Ear Trainer on iOS and was using Complete Ear Training on Android, I've only been doing it for like six or eight months with a break in-between. I went from nothing to being able to recognize m2, M2, m3, M3, P4 and P5 upwards and I'm working on m3/M3 downwards and harmonically now, usually with 85%/90% accuracy. I can also tell major from minor 7th chords apart with like 70% accuracy and tell the major and minor scale and their pentatonics apart upwards and downwards with above 80%. All this with different root notes, same root note is way easier. If you are interested in transcribing I would recommend a teacher. My girlfriend can arrange live on piano and has insanely good absolute pitch and she helped me on moments of extreme confusion and frustration that I wouldn't have gotten out of on my own. Also I have a tuner app on iOS that plays a reference pitch and also tells you what interval you sang, it's called TonalEnergy Tuner. I didn't need to sing until I got into learning downwards intervals, and I think I would never would be able to learn those without being able to sing do re mi in tune. Singing for some reason really helps you "imagine" and remember tunes. On the same amount of time I am now very seldom but sometimes able to transcribe very simple synth lead melodies to my synthesizer, as I was also learning basic sound design in parallel to this. One year ago I didn't even know you could learn absolute pitch as an adult, I'm 37. I'm completely mind blown by the fact I learnt what I learnt so far and sometimes I just don't believe it happened and am scared it will just like completely go away or something because it's like a very alien thing for me to be able to do. I don't even know what my objective is but it's probably being able to musicalize things in my mind and being able to jam with friends.
taylodl 5y ago
Look at Rick Beato's ear training course (https://rickbeato.com https://rickbeato.com). It's $119 but you get 100 modules. Private lessons are commonly $20-$25 per half hour so this is a pretty good deal.
- jimhefferon 5y ago
  Thanks, I may do that.

I've put some links in a comment below to help with pitch and interval training.

Practice transcribing music. There are also simple ear training applications you can get for your phone. Relative pitch is a fairly simple concept, so there's a proliferation of apps that teach it, at least to a basic level. It's also common to have a library of songs in your head that start off with each interval. Everything from "Für Elise" for the minor second, to "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" for an octave.

sharkjacobs 5y ago

I used to have a music teacher who taught me to practice by associating the openings of common songs with each interval I've forgotten most of them now but the Jaws theme "duh-duh-duh-duh" is a minor 2nd, Twinkle Twinkle little star is a perfect 5th, and "my bon-" of My Bonnie Lies Over the Ocean" is a major 6th

Bud 5y ago

The same way it's taught if you go to music school. Practice. Have music played to you, and write it down. Start with very short pitch sequences; this will require you, of course, to learn to recognize intervals accurately. Then move on to longer and more complex sequences. Lather, rinse, repeat.

pvarangot 5y ago

If a beginners point of view is useful, let me tell you I'm using Ear Trainer on iOS and was using Complete Ear Training on Android, I've only been doing it for like six or eight months with a break in-between. I went from nothing to being able to recognize m2, M2, m3, M3, P4 and P5 upwards and I'm working on m3/M3 downwards and harmonically now, usually with 85%/90% accuracy. I can also tell major from minor 7th chords apart with like 70% accuracy and tell the major and minor scale and their pentatonics apart upwards and downwards with above 80%. All this with different root notes, same root note is way easier. If you are interested in transcribing I would recommend a teacher. My girlfriend can arrange live on piano and has insanely good absolute pitch and she helped me on moments of extreme confusion and frustration that I wouldn't have gotten out of on my own. Also I have a tuner app on iOS that plays a reference pitch and also tells you what interval you sang, it's called TonalEnergy Tuner. I didn't need to sing until I got into learning downwards intervals, and I think I would never would be able to learn those without being able to sing do re mi in tune. Singing for some reason really helps you "imagine" and remember tunes. On the same amount of time I am now very seldom but sometimes able to transcribe very simple synth lead melodies to my synthesizer, as I was also learning basic sound design in parallel to this. One year ago I didn't even know you could learn absolute pitch as an adult, I'm 37. I'm completely mind blown by the fact I learnt what I learnt so far and sometimes I just don't believe it happened and am scared it will just like completely go away or something because it's like a very alien thing for me to be able to do. I don't even know what my objective is but it's probably being able to musicalize things in my mind and being able to jam with friends.

taylodl 5y ago

Look at Rick Beato's ear training course (https://rickbeato.com https://rickbeato.com). It's $119 but you get 100 modules. Private lessons are commonly $20-$25 per half hour so this is a pretty good deal.

jimhefferon 5y ago
Thanks, I may do that.