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There is a community around watching court cases at /r/zoomcourt Judge Middleton and Deborah Davis (the attorney) from this case are very popular over there. S

by yreg 5y ago

There is a community around watching court cases at /r/zoomcourt Judge Middleton and Deborah Davis (the attorney) from this case are very popular over there. She is even a member of the subreddit IIRC.

jedberg 5y ago
My understanding is that only judges can share these recordings because it would be an ethical violation for the lawyers to do it, but I wonder, why isn't it an ethical issue for the Judge?
- shadowgovt 5y ago
  It varies from court to court, but in general the judge has the responsibility of evaluating whether public interest outweighs rights to privacy for any given piece of recorded court information. I'd imagine it is an ethical issue, but the judge has the authority to evaluate the ethics and reach a decision.
  - isk517 5y ago
    I would imagine it is harder for the judge to benefit from sharing recordings, where a lawyer could use a release recording to promote their practice or attempt to sway public option in the event of a mistrial.
    - vincebowdren 5y ago
      Indeed. The adversarial court system means that every lawyer involved is on one side or the other; the judge is both neutral and in charge overall, so it makes sense for the judge to make that decision.
- rossdavidh 5y ago
  Well in ordinary circumstances it is often allowed for the public to be in the courtroom (not always, obviously), so I would think that the judge would apply the same criteria? IANAL.
- astura 5y ago
  Nominally (before Zoom court) court proceedings (and records) are open to the public.
notananthem 5y ago
Why are the cases being streamed on the internet?
- lmilcin 5y ago
  Criminal court proceedings are normally open to public by default in many jurisdictions. The idea being that law is applied in public to keep process in check, unless there are exceptional reasons not to do so.
  - DaiPlusPlus 5y ago
    ...and with public viewing galleries in courts closed or access-limited due to covid, live-streaming over the Internet is the straightforward replacement. Though there is a substantial difference between having an modestly-sized, in-person audience of dispassionate local journalists, plaintiffs, relatives and the occasional curious member of the public - and having potentially thousands of Internet gawkers and potential doxxers. Especially in cases like rape/sexual-assault and the like: there's definitely a public-interest (for the accused, the victim, the guilty and the innocent alike) in having a limited audience. ...can/would any judges agree to limit the public streaming audience to a smaller number in those cases?

by yreg 5y ago

jedberg 5y ago

My understanding is that only judges can share these recordings because it would be an ethical violation for the lawyers to do it, but I wonder, why isn't it an ethical issue for the Judge?

shadowgovt 5y ago
It varies from court to court, but in general the judge has the responsibility of evaluating whether public interest outweighs rights to privacy for any given piece of recorded court information. I'd imagine it is an ethical issue, but the judge has the authority to evaluate the ethics and reach a decision.
- isk517 5y ago
  I would imagine it is harder for the judge to benefit from sharing recordings, where a lawyer could use a release recording to promote their practice or attempt to sway public option in the event of a mistrial.
  - vincebowdren 5y ago
    Indeed. The adversarial court system means that every lawyer involved is on one side or the other; the judge is both neutral and in charge overall, so it makes sense for the judge to make that decision.
rossdavidh 5y ago
Well in ordinary circumstances it is often allowed for the public to be in the courtroom (not always, obviously), so I would think that the judge would apply the same criteria? IANAL.
astura 5y ago
Nominally (before Zoom court) court proceedings (and records) are open to the public.

notananthem 5y ago

Why are the cases being streamed on the internet?

lmilcin 5y ago
Criminal court proceedings are normally open to public by default in many jurisdictions. The idea being that law is applied in public to keep process in check, unless there are exceptional reasons not to do so.
- DaiPlusPlus 5y ago
  ...and with public viewing galleries in courts closed or access-limited due to covid, live-streaming over the Internet is the straightforward replacement. Though there is a substantial difference between having an modestly-sized, in-person audience of dispassionate local journalists, plaintiffs, relatives and the occasional curious member of the public - and having potentially thousands of Internet gawkers and potential doxxers. Especially in cases like rape/sexual-assault and the like: there's definitely a public-interest (for the accused, the victim, the guilty and the innocent alike) in having a limited audience. ...can/would any judges agree to limit the public streaming audience to a smaller number in those cases?