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This is a proprietary core from a hobbyist/retro mainly Amiga team (nothing to do with Motorola) that has had quite a lot of murkyness associated with it. Ther

This is a proprietary core from a hobbyist/retro mainly Amiga team (nothing to do with Motorola) that has had quite a lot of murkyness associated with it. There have been accusations of this being simply a Coldfire ripoff based on leaked information [1] but also a lot of people have complained that they delete critical posts from their web forum and discord. The core is buggy and not really fully compatible with Motorola processors. They've also implemented their own extensions (AMMX). The Amiga scene has had countless peddlers of proprietary hardware, trying to vendor lock-in a substantial userbase. My opinion is that people are better served with Mister FPGA which is completely open and/or other open solutions (The Buffee project, PiStorm). [1] https://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=102586 https://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=102586

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cmrdporcupine 5y ago
I've said it before here, but I'll say it again: from the outside looking in this seems to be an ailment affecting the Amiga community more than retro communities. On other retro machines so much is open sourced or rewritten now, but on the Amiga there seems to be some fantasy that people are going to be making money there. Lots of proprietary closed stuff. I mean, MiST/MiSTer comes out of the Atari ST community, for example. That's what it was originally designed for, an ST core, and all the vhdl is open source.
- grahamlee 5y ago
  It's actually not a fantasy. AmigaOS 3.2 was released this year as a commercial product, and Apollo make enough money to employ Gunnar full time and some part time folks too. Giving a niche community exactly the things they want will never be unicorn territory but it can produce liveable income. There is also the open source stuff: for example Apollo have abandoned CoffinOS due to licensing issues and are now developing ApolloOS, which is a fork of AROS, which is an open source reimplementation of AmigaOS. Free Software ideas aren't as prevalent as I'd like in the Amiga community but they are there (plenty of GNU software was ported to Amiga via ixemul.library so they've always been there).
  - rbanffy 5y ago
    While you can maintain one or two people out of this market, it won’t be much more than that. The Amiga community will be better off with fully open source community projects.
  - cmrdporcupine 5y ago
    I mean it's funny, I wasn't familiar with CoffinOS so I googled it, and most of the results I found were links to forum posts of people fighting & bickering about piracy, compensation, and unethical behaviour around compensation and IP. We're a smaller community, but I don't see this kind of fighting on Atari ST forums. And we have a good quality fully open sourced GPL reimplementation of the operating system, too, with a pretty awesome development team.
- philpem 5y ago
  It's not exclusive to the Amiga - the same applies to the Acorn / RISC OS community too (to an extent). There's a font organiser which used to be sold by its author for £10, but was bought up by another company and is now being sold at £45. A personal accounts package that was £30 is now £95. A long outdated word processor, £60. Oh, and the tool to format SD cards - that's £15. Who really pays that kind of money for a retro 'toy'?

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cmrdporcupine 5y ago

I've said it before here, but I'll say it again: from the outside looking in this seems to be an ailment affecting the Amiga community more than retro communities. On other retro machines so much is open sourced or rewritten now, but on the Amiga there seems to be some fantasy that people are going to be making money there. Lots of proprietary closed stuff. I mean, MiST/MiSTer comes out of the Atari ST community, for example. That's what it was originally designed for, an ST core, and all the vhdl is open source.

grahamlee 5y ago
It's actually not a fantasy. AmigaOS 3.2 was released this year as a commercial product, and Apollo make enough money to employ Gunnar full time and some part time folks too. Giving a niche community exactly the things they want will never be unicorn territory but it can produce liveable income. There is also the open source stuff: for example Apollo have abandoned CoffinOS due to licensing issues and are now developing ApolloOS, which is a fork of AROS, which is an open source reimplementation of AmigaOS. Free Software ideas aren't as prevalent as I'd like in the Amiga community but they are there (plenty of GNU software was ported to Amiga via ixemul.library so they've always been there).
- rbanffy 5y ago
  While you can maintain one or two people out of this market, it won’t be much more than that. The Amiga community will be better off with fully open source community projects.
- cmrdporcupine 5y ago
  I mean it's funny, I wasn't familiar with CoffinOS so I googled it, and most of the results I found were links to forum posts of people fighting & bickering about piracy, compensation, and unethical behaviour around compensation and IP. We're a smaller community, but I don't see this kind of fighting on Atari ST forums. And we have a good quality fully open sourced GPL reimplementation of the operating system, too, with a pretty awesome development team.
philpem 5y ago
It's not exclusive to the Amiga - the same applies to the Acorn / RISC OS community too (to an extent). There's a font organiser which used to be sold by its author for £10, but was bought up by another company and is now being sold at £45. A personal accounts package that was £30 is now £95. A long outdated word processor, £60. Oh, and the tool to format SD cards - that's £15. Who really pays that kind of money for a retro 'toy'?