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Counter-intuitively, my parents have stayed happily married for a very long time and my dad is significantly more conservative than my mom (although my mom has
by tristor 5y ago
Counter-intuitively, my parents have stayed happily married for a very long time and my dad is significantly more conservative than my mom (although my mom has become more "conservative" in the current decade in reaction to how extreme rhetoric on the left has become in the US). I am about to propose to my long-time partner who is significantly more to the left than I am (we are both to the left, I'm barely left of center, my partner is barely to the right of the the edge of the chart).
There used to be the phrase "opposites attract". I think there are value systems which underlie politics that need to match up, but those value systems don't necessarily translate into the exact same political beliefs. In fact, in the US historically, men tended to be more conservative and women more progressive, and I don't see that really changing in the current times. Most of my male friends are more conservative than their partners, even as most of us are left of center. This is true, anecdotally, among the people I know across educational attainment and income.
On the flip side, when I was still dating, I always brought up politics and religion on the first date because it helped me filter people out. I didn't filter people out because we disagreed politically, but because of /how/ we disagreed (or rather how /they/ disagreed) politically. It was surprising the number of people who were exceedingly disagreeable about politics, completely unable to have a polite conversation on the topic, where any hint of dissent from their view was met with vehemence, even in person in a face-to-face conversation. My experience up to that point was this was how things worked online, but you could have a conversation with someone very different from you over a beer and it'd be alright face-to-face. Dating changed my outlook on this.
I think this was a good filter, because while politics was the topic of discussion, the filter had nothing to do with beliefs and everything to do with agreeableness, reasonableness, and behavior. In effect, it became a very good way to filter out assholes, of which there are many, unfortunately the majority of eligible persons in my dating pool. But, no regrets on this filter, because my current partner is wonderful and was found after many years of searching using this filter.
My parents relationship, the relationships of my friends (most of whom are married), and my own relationship are all anecdotal, but strong evidence that supports you don't need to politically agree to date successfully and have a long-term relationship or marriage. But it does require the two people involved to not be vehement zealots who dehumanize anyone that disagrees with them, which unfortunately is becoming a rarer situation thanks to the extremist echo chambers we've created online.
- bboylen 5y agoYes this is very true As long as both people are open minded and try to assume positive intention (unless proved otherwise) I think differences are just fine. I don't think I could date someone who could only accept the party line, whether D or R. It astonishes me the arrogance of people who think they have the world completely figured out and know the best solution for everything.
- AnimalMuppet 5y agoYes, and it's more than just politics. In any marriage, someone will be more conservative, and someone will be more liberal. But also, someone will be more fiscally conservative, and someone more willing/eager to spend. Someone will be more of a morning person, and the other more of a night owl. Someone will be more extroverted and social, and the other more of an introvert. Someone will be more athletic and outdoorsy, and the other more of a couch potato. Those differences exist. They're going to hit your relationship, because they hit every relationship. Can the two of you deal with them (all of them) in a reasonable and healthy manner, or not?
- tristor 5y ago> Those differences exist. They're going to hit your relationship, because they hit every relationship. Can the two of you deal with them (all of them) in a reasonable and healthy manner, or not? Just so. This is also true of friendships as much as it is romance, and nobody much likes being friends with someone who is domineering and zealous. Agreeableness is a useful trait in relationships of every type and for many farther reaching cases than simple politics. I think that politics /might/ be becoming a more strict relationship divider in our current times, but is is less to do with politics, and more to do with the lack of agreeableness amongst people.