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Yes, it is about optimization. By your own admission, rustc allows you to set -C opt-level, and that would probably change semantics to the desired, but at sign
by Subsentient 5y ago
Yes, it is about optimization. By your own admission, rustc allows you to set -C opt-level, and that would probably change semantics to the desired, but at significantly worse performance.
You don't seem to understand the concept of undefined behavior. What I'm trying to say is that even if rustc generates the correct output, the code could still officially be declared UB, just as it is now in debug mode. If it breaks logic that relies on the exclusivity of &mut, well, that's what UB does, it breaks things.
It is entirely an optimization option.
You're right that I think it would be nice if you could have multiple &muts created from raw pointers, but I'm not asking for that. The reason these things are issues at all is because Rust uses these references for things like RAII (e.g. &mut self in drop()), and there's no way to use raw pointers instead. If Rust provided a way to use raw pointers more easily in the places you need them, this would be a non-issue. But right now, the unsafe/safe boundary is very dangerous in Rust, so dangerous that I'm uncomfortable working in it even though I've worked in C and C++ for over a decade, and it's entirely a self-inflicted wound by the Rust devs.
- steveklabnik 5y ago> You don't seem to understand the concept of undefined behavior Okay, now I am done here, like you said you were before this post.
- Subsentient 5y agoSorry, I was getting a bit frustrated, because I kept repeating my position, and you kept saying it affected semantics, whereas if it's UB either way, it hasn't really affecting semantics officially. Yeah I'm done too. I don't enjoy arguing, and Rust in particular never brings out the best in me.
- nickitolas 5y agoI just found this issue in gccrs about strict aliasing, you might have some valuable input for it. https://github.com/Rust-GCC/gccrs/issues/653 https://github.com/Rust-GCC/gccrs/issues/653