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I've been reading the feedback on /r/windows11 for a few weeks, and this release feels rushed. First available to public test at the end of June[0], and they're

I've been reading the feedback on /r/windows11 for a few weeks, and this release feels rushed. First available to public test at the end of June[0], and they're shipping it less than four months later with almost none of the issues/limitations/complaints being addressed. This whole release feels very, if you'll excuse the expression, "lipstick on a pig." They didn't really fix any of the underlying and longstanding issues people had with Windows 10, threw a new thin veneer on top, and called it a new thing. This October 5th release just feels like them expanding their public beta test to most Windows 10 users. I'm normally an early adopter (e.g. running iOS 15 Beta 7 right now), but I'm going to wait six months or more after Oct5 because this isn't even close to being production ready. [0] https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/06/28/announcing-the-first-insider-preview-for-windows-11/ https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/06/28/announc...

smallbizdev420 5y ago
There is no lipstick. It is all pig. Windows exists because people run it on laptops and desktops. Not tablets and phones. Every time MS tried to make it otherwise, they failed. Windows RT, Windows 8, Windows 10S, Windows 10X - each was less attractive than its predecessors, and each damaged the desktop attractiveness of Windows. Now we have an OS that tries to pretend it is a mobile OS, not a laptop and desktop OS. Control Panel that takes away more control from the user with each update, Search that won't find the most simple things, Explorer hanging randomly, OneDrive's broken sync and the rest of the UI are painful to use even on a beefy desktop. Even worse, it doesn't work well on mobile/touch devices. The new Control Painal changes from update to update, the Explorer UI gets less and less responsive and obvious, the and the file selection dialog is about as broken as someone could make it on purpose. I really have no clue who they're building Windows for anymore. I'm reminded of the joke https://milk.com/random-humor/suit_joke.html https://milk.com/random-humor/suit_joke.html about the tailor. Windows is the suit.
- ToFab123 5y ago
  People do run in on tablets. OK, maybe not tablets like the iPad, but many people, including me, has 2-in-1 devices, where you laptop has a touch screen and where you use the device like it was a tablet.
- noahtallen 5y ago
  When you use a windows laptop with a touch screen, you get really comfortable with reaching out and tapping it for small things. I wouldn’t have though I wanted one, but I unintentionally started accidentally touching my MacBook when I switched away. So touch support is obviously useful at some level!
bserge 5y ago
I mean, they learned from 8-10 that they can perform development and updates while some people lose all of their data.

smallbizdev420 5y ago

There is no lipstick. It is all pig. Windows exists because people run it on laptops and desktops. Not tablets and phones. Every time MS tried to make it otherwise, they failed. Windows RT, Windows 8, Windows 10S, Windows 10X - each was less attractive than its predecessors, and each damaged the desktop attractiveness of Windows. Now we have an OS that tries to pretend it is a mobile OS, not a laptop and desktop OS. Control Panel that takes away more control from the user with each update, Search that won't find the most simple things, Explorer hanging randomly, OneDrive's broken sync and the rest of the UI are painful to use even on a beefy desktop. Even worse, it doesn't work well on mobile/touch devices. The new Control Painal changes from update to update, the Explorer UI gets less and less responsive and obvious, the and the file selection dialog is about as broken as someone could make it on purpose. I really have no clue who they're building Windows for anymore. I'm reminded of the joke https://milk.com/random-humor/suit_joke.html https://milk.com/random-humor/suit_joke.html about the tailor. Windows is the suit.

ToFab123 5y ago
People do run in on tablets. OK, maybe not tablets like the iPad, but many people, including me, has 2-in-1 devices, where you laptop has a touch screen and where you use the device like it was a tablet.
noahtallen 5y ago
When you use a windows laptop with a touch screen, you get really comfortable with reaching out and tapping it for small things. I wouldn’t have though I wanted one, but I unintentionally started accidentally touching my MacBook when I switched away. So touch support is obviously useful at some level!

bserge 5y ago

I mean, they learned from 8-10 that they can perform development and updates while some people lose all of their data.