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Consider: *Twitter is a small but vocal slice of politics, mostly left-leaning. *Publishing to Twitter means throwing yourself at the mob. *The mob is motiva
by mc32 5y ago
Consider:
*Twitter is a small but vocal slice of politics, mostly left-leaning.
*Publishing to Twitter means throwing yourself at the mob.
*The mob is motivated by many things, one of which is one-upping the other for sport.
But THE WORST part of the whole thing is people take it seriously and companies take it seriously and organizations take it seriously.
It would not be so bad if Twittering stayed in Twitter, but it doesn't, it bleeds into life in real ways.
That means you cannot use it as a way to "think out loud". People will find what you said 10 years ago when something was okay and judge you on today's mores.
People have not co-developed and matured enough with Social media to be able to judge what comes from it appropriately.
My wish is we grow out of it much quicker than it took the "East" to grow out of Leninism.
- dgfitz 5y agoI believe the article details a lot of examples where twitter had nothing to do with the 'crime' at all. Twitter is just where the echo chamber resides.
- duxup 5y agoI don't know how much I would "blame" twitter. But I do think that "the medium is the message" and Twitter's medium is short, curt, over simplified, and encourages exaggeration and even worse.
- mc32 5y agoIt also encourages piling-on. And, for unknown reasons, companies and organizations feel beholden to the Twitter mood. We see this with technical support issues as well as tangential social issues: someone from the company was seen acting rude towards someone -Outrage! (As if the accuser never, ever engaged in such uncivil behavior, ever! And especially never become part of a Twitter mob to seek something as crass as revenge)
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- dgfitz 5y agoSure I agree. I just meant you can be 'charged with a crime' in the context of TFA without even having a twitter account. Maybe I just misunderstood what the initial poster meant.
- PeterisP 5y agoI believe the article details a lot of examples where Twitter had nothing to do with the 'crime' at all but public discussions on Twitter had a lot to do with creating the mob justice - and that is how Twitter undesirably "bleeds into life in real ways" as the parent post asserts. People should be free to discuss various allegations on Twitter and demand various actions to be taken; but where it goes wrong is that it should not be acceptable for institutions to act/react/overreact on their employees solely based on these social media allegations and demands, actual due process should still be a thing.
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- rootusrootus 5y ago> mostly left-leaning Are you seeing a different Twitter than I do? Of course you are.
- unethical_ban 5y agoThe examples of this kind of "run them out of town" reactivity is.
- rootusrootus 5y agoI dunno, I see it coming from all sides. Even the normal people in my life have become very political, and it doesn't matter which angle they're starting from. I see my original comment didn't get any love. I was just making a snarky remark about how Twitter probably uses algorithms to make sure your feed and mind are outrageous in their own specific-to-us ways.
- DenisM 5y agoSnark is against HN guidelines, hence the cold reception.
- rootusrootus 5y agoIt was an observation that Twitter most likely uses algorithms to curate each individual feed, so any given reader is likely to sense a different trend. Very much on point for HN.
- DenisM 5y agoFrom the HN guidelines: Don't be snarky. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html So. Could you have made the same point without snark?
- rootusrootus 5y ago
- AnimalMuppet 5y agoHmm. I read recently how terrorist organizations compete - by trying to do a more violent, headline-catching act than the other organizations. That's how they attract new recruits. > The mob is motivated by many things, one of which is one-upping the other for sport. It's not for sport. It's for followers (which extend their power to attract more followers). And one of the ways their one-upping each other is by expressions of outrage. (One could justly call this "performative", since the point is to be seen.)