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one of the first regulations that make sense: more free market. As long as there are regulators with a lot of power there will be incentive to corruption anywa

one of the first regulations that make sense: more free market. As long as there are regulators with a lot of power there will be incentive to corruption anyway. I like free competition. Something that Google and Apple were trying to prevent. But putting all in the hands of an ever-increasing state is not the way to go either. Though I gree with the decision.

vincnetas 5y ago
So when you have Apple and Google (two gorillas) how do you imagine "free competition" happening without state intervention?
oblio 5y ago
1. Network effects. 2. Information asymmetry. 3. Barriers to entry. Purely free markets only apply to toiler paper rolls, and not even that.
dragonwriter 5y ago
> one of the first regulations that make sense: more free market State regulations dictating conditions to market participants cannot make something more “free market”. They can favor more competition by artificially limiting the advantage of the most successful competitors, but that's not “free market”, which is the absence of market distortion by state regulation, not the presence of only those market distortions that you prefer. > I like free competition. No, clearly, you like competition with the leaders artificially handicapped by the State, not free competition. Which may be a valid preference, but don't pretend its a free market with free competition.
- MatekCopatek 5y ago
  Well, depends on your definition of free market. Wiki says: > In a free market, the laws and forces of supply and demand are free from any intervention by a government or other authority, and from all forms of economic privilege, monopolies and artificial scarcities. So while your remark about state regulations isn't wrong, the (grand)parent comment is clearly talking about the second part of this definition. Whose freedom is the "free" bit about? Is it about Apple being free to do whatever they want with their platform or is it about me being free to buy iPhone apps from anyone?
- germandiago 5y ago
  I prefer what you state actually: 100% free competition. I just said that they were basically doing what to me seems like a cartel unfavoring competition. Anyway, with more freee market this maybe would not happen though I cannot be 100% sure since the investment it takes to do an OS ecosystem is not at the reach of everyone, making fewer competitors viable.

vincnetas 5y ago

So when you have Apple and Google (two gorillas) how do you imagine "free competition" happening without state intervention?

oblio 5y ago

1. Network effects. 2. Information asymmetry. 3. Barriers to entry. Purely free markets only apply to toiler paper rolls, and not even that.

dragonwriter 5y ago

> one of the first regulations that make sense: more free market State regulations dictating conditions to market participants cannot make something more “free market”. They can favor more competition by artificially limiting the advantage of the most successful competitors, but that's not “free market”, which is the absence of market distortion by state regulation, not the presence of only those market distortions that you prefer. > I like free competition. No, clearly, you like competition with the leaders artificially handicapped by the State, not free competition. Which may be a valid preference, but don't pretend its a free market with free competition.

MatekCopatek 5y ago
Well, depends on your definition of free market. Wiki says: > In a free market, the laws and forces of supply and demand are free from any intervention by a government or other authority, and from all forms of economic privilege, monopolies and artificial scarcities. So while your remark about state regulations isn't wrong, the (grand)parent comment is clearly talking about the second part of this definition. Whose freedom is the "free" bit about? Is it about Apple being free to do whatever they want with their platform or is it about me being free to buy iPhone apps from anyone?
germandiago 5y ago
I prefer what you state actually: 100% free competition. I just said that they were basically doing what to me seems like a cartel unfavoring competition. Anyway, with more freee market this maybe would not happen though I cannot be 100% sure since the investment it takes to do an OS ecosystem is not at the reach of everyone, making fewer competitors viable.