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The concessions Apple & Google made to "stave off regulation" are informative in themselves: It also agreed to let developers inform their users about payment
by dalbasal 5y ago
The concessions Apple & Google made to "stave off regulation" are informative in themselves:
It also agreed to let developers inform their users about payment options outside the App Store, using the email addresses that users gave them. Google said that it would only take 15 percent of developers' first million dollars instead of 30 percent.
Combined with "competition for monopoly" elements like paying Telcoms not to develop their own app stores or support 3rd party ones, the whole thing stinks to high heavens.
Once upon a time, "net neutrality" had wide support, and there was understanding that it required constant vigilance. Google, ironically, was a big defender of net neutrality... even as they established their own dam immediately downstream of ISPs.
- jaywalk 5y agoNet Neutrality just meant that Google got to shovel YouTube streams onto ISP networks without having to pay. Let's not pretend there were ever any noble intentions behind it.
- ZoomerCretin 5y agoYou think it’s okay for ISPs to double dip on charging their customers for access and then charging their customers’ most popular services (who are frequently competitors of the ISPs) for the privilege of accessing their customers? Why should any ISP think they can charge the source of my bits when I am already paying them for the bandwidth? https://www.theversed.com/2754/riot-games-seek-court-justice-after-internet-provider-deliberately-causes-in-game-lag/#.IfBauVI0Ad https://www.theversed.com/2754/riot-games-seek-court-justice... Net Neutrality is not just about “shoveling YouTube streams without having to pay.” In one case, an ISP was deliberately dropping packets for a popular online game (which, if you didn’t know, online games are known for requiring very little bandwidth), and extorting the game developer with the loss of ISP’s customers if they did not pay up. ISPs are monopoly-abusing extortionists. They deserve every bit of ire they receive.
- Hnrobert42 5y agoWhat do you mean “without having to pay”? Google pays for its connection to the internet, right?
- jaywalk 5y agoNo, in most cases they don't.
- hyperionplays 5y agoThis. Google has amazingly helpful peering bilats with most major ISP's globally, they don't have to pay for transit nearly as much as the rest of us. they were a staunch defender of net neutrality because it let them avoid millions of $$ in transit.
- Hnrobert42 5y agoWhy do Gooogle’s peers charge Google less money?
- jaywalk 5y agoPeering is free by definition.
- sigjuice 5y agohow do I get free internet at home using this method ... i hate paying comcast every month
- jaywalk 5y agoPeering is a one-to-one relationship, not "Internet access" like you're thinking. If you peered with Comcast, for example, you'd only be able to reach Comcast customers over that connection. A more "Internet access" type of connection would be transit, which is definitely not free.
- judge2020 5y ago> paying Telcoms not to develop their own app stores or support 3rd party ones, the whole thing stinks to high heavens. Once upon a time, flip phones had 'app stores' also maintained by a solo telecom.