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Wow. I don't know how other Aussies feel about this, but to me this is so atrocious I just had to join HN to discuss it. This is sufficient motivation to aban

by aa-jv 5y ago

Wow. I don't know how other Aussies feel about this, but to me this is so atrocious I just had to join HN to discuss it. This is sufficient motivation to abandon my Australian citizenship entirely and move to a country that is not dominated by totalitarian-authoritarian policies designed to impede the progress of a free and open society. This policy is clearly designed to make sure another Assange-type situation does not happen again. Australians need to learn to watch their (digital) back with even more care and attention than previously. We do not have the rights we think we do.

throwaway210222 5y ago
Will you still abandon your Austrialian citizenship if you find out that no other first-world country meets your standards? I doubt it.
- aa-jv 5y ago
  A typically purile argument - "the other kids are doing it, why can't Australians also do it?" Just: no. There are plenty of states that are still fighting this totalitarian-authoritarian effort. Austrian police can't modify peoples data online for their purposes.
  - georgeplusplus 5y ago
    >>> There are plenty of states that are still fighting this totalitarian-authoritarian effort. Curious as to what states you believe those to be?
    - aa-jv 5y ago
      Germany. Austria. The memory of the Stasi is still quite fresh in these societies collective consciousness.
      - djbebs 5y ago
        Im sorry to say, but thats not true.
        gutitout 5y ago
        Worse than 20 years ago. Better than Australia.
peakaboo 5y ago
Australia really went off the deep end now in 2021. Horrible mentality with cops who refuse to give their names going around knocking on doors asking if people know about protests being formed. What the actual fuck.
alfiedotwtf 5y ago
If you follow the NSW and Vic twitter feed for the daily COVID numbers, your post reads exactly like those bots that say something along the lines of "that's it, I'm denouncing my citizenship". It gets a bit boring, and if you're doing this from a new, green, account, I'm going to assume you're an antagonist account trying to create division within the discussion. These discussions aren't new, and they started with the AABill, and they've been discussed here for a while now - so why only now decide to "abandon my citizenship"?

by aa-jv 5y ago

throwaway210222 5y ago

Will you still abandon your Austrialian citizenship if you find out that no other first-world country meets your standards? I doubt it.

aa-jv 5y ago
A typically purile argument - "the other kids are doing it, why can't Australians also do it?" Just: no. There are plenty of states that are still fighting this totalitarian-authoritarian effort. Austrian police can't modify peoples data online for their purposes.
- georgeplusplus 5y ago
  >>> There are plenty of states that are still fighting this totalitarian-authoritarian effort. Curious as to what states you believe those to be?
  - aa-jv 5y ago
    Germany. Austria. The memory of the Stasi is still quite fresh in these societies collective consciousness.
    - djbebs 5y ago
      Im sorry to say, but thats not true.
      - gutitout 5y ago
        Worse than 20 years ago. Better than Australia.

peakaboo 5y ago

Australia really went off the deep end now in 2021. Horrible mentality with cops who refuse to give their names going around knocking on doors asking if people know about protests being formed. What the actual fuck.

alfiedotwtf 5y ago

If you follow the NSW and Vic twitter feed for the daily COVID numbers, your post reads exactly like those bots that say something along the lines of "that's it, I'm denouncing my citizenship". It gets a bit boring, and if you're doing this from a new, green, account, I'm going to assume you're an antagonist account trying to create division within the discussion. These discussions aren't new, and they started with the AABill, and they've been discussed here for a while now - so why only now decide to "abandon my citizenship"?