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Recent study posted on hackernews from Israel says immunity from Covid itself is 13 times stronger than from Pfizer vaccines. There is absolutely no reason to v

Recent study posted on hackernews from Israel says immunity from Covid itself is 13 times stronger than from Pfizer vaccines. There is absolutely no reason to vaccinate if you already had Covid, yet that’s not normalized. Policies are built around vaccination, and natural immunity is an afterthought.

michaelmrose 5y ago
Studies have also shown that people who have had the vaccine and covid have half the reinfection rate as those who have had covid alone. Granted this is reducing an already modest risk but there is virtually no risk to the pfizer vaccine so on balance it makes sense to vaccinate. Especially since reinfection means more spread including to millions of antivaxxers. Conversely everyone who had a sniffle in 2020 or even 2019 thinks they already had covid. The message don't get vaccinated if you've been infected would ultimately if implemented lead to millions of people being exposed because they thought they had covid infecting millions of others who are unvaccinated. So do we want to use our ample supply of vaccine to make everyone including formerly infected slightly more safe or do we want to infect millions of additional idiots. The choice is clear. Even in the fictional world where everyone was smart enough to understand the nuanced message of get tested to ensure you actually had covid we would be expending scant medical resources to do what? Help people be slightly less safe to avoid feeling unwell for two days?
- MrRiddle 5y ago
  That’s very first world thinking, we don’t have ample supply of vaccines, many countries are still without them. It’s about providing those countries with vaccines vs making first world people slightly more protected. Also, vaccines are not completely safe, even though in very small number of cases, they did cause side effects, as serious as hearth inflammation or blood clots.
  - michaelmrose 5y ago
    The decision about how to allocate doses and the decision of an individual to get vaccinated are not connected. There is no box to check to send this dose to a poorer nation. Given the availability of the dose it is logical for you to both ask for more doses to be provided to those who need them overseas AND consume the doses allocated to your state which otherwise may simply go to waste to nobody's benefit.

michaelmrose 5y ago

Studies have also shown that people who have had the vaccine and covid have half the reinfection rate as those who have had covid alone. Granted this is reducing an already modest risk but there is virtually no risk to the pfizer vaccine so on balance it makes sense to vaccinate. Especially since reinfection means more spread including to millions of antivaxxers. Conversely everyone who had a sniffle in 2020 or even 2019 thinks they already had covid. The message don't get vaccinated if you've been infected would ultimately if implemented lead to millions of people being exposed because they thought they had covid infecting millions of others who are unvaccinated. So do we want to use our ample supply of vaccine to make everyone including formerly infected slightly more safe or do we want to infect millions of additional idiots. The choice is clear. Even in the fictional world where everyone was smart enough to understand the nuanced message of get tested to ensure you actually had covid we would be expending scant medical resources to do what? Help people be slightly less safe to avoid feeling unwell for two days?

MrRiddle 5y ago
That’s very first world thinking, we don’t have ample supply of vaccines, many countries are still without them. It’s about providing those countries with vaccines vs making first world people slightly more protected. Also, vaccines are not completely safe, even though in very small number of cases, they did cause side effects, as serious as hearth inflammation or blood clots.
- michaelmrose 5y ago
  The decision about how to allocate doses and the decision of an individual to get vaccinated are not connected. There is no box to check to send this dose to a poorer nation. Given the availability of the dose it is logical for you to both ask for more doses to be provided to those who need them overseas AND consume the doses allocated to your state which otherwise may simply go to waste to nobody's benefit.