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> Org-mode for Emacs [1] is just great > - Consistent interface: using emacs might be tough on mobile > - Custom logic: via emacs scripts > - Standard protoc

> Org-mode for Emacs [1] is just great > - Consistent interface: using emacs might be tough on mobile > - Custom logic: via emacs scripts > - Standard protocols: custom scripting does anything. Huh?! What kind of fantasy world are emacs devotees living in? No "normal" or even half-normal user is going to spend hours on "scripting" just to see their calendar, nor are they going to put up with mobile as anything other than a first class platform. For a lot of people, mobile is their only platform.

capableweb 5y ago
I don't think blackbear_ is a average user of emacs, remember we're on the same hacker news where a user famously asked "why even build Dropbox when ssh/scp does the trick?" so it's very biased towards "I can hack this together myself so why couldn't others".
- TacoSteemers 5y ago
  If I recall correctly, that user was giving examples of questions that could be expected to be asked by other people. They were not actually tivializing Dropbox.
  - capableweb 5y ago
    You don't recall correctly, the users only question is about making money while the rest are statements on how Dropbox don't seem to solve any of the "real" problems and won't even replace FTP (I recalled ssh/sft incorrectly here too). You can check out history in the making yourself here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863
    - TacoSteemers 5y ago
      Perhaps you are interested in these two comments by dang: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=dang%20brandonm%20dropbox&sort=byPopularity&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... I think this is what I was remembering.
      - OJFord 5y ago
        Interesting. I think those need to be taken in their own context though - at least the second is responding to somebody who is indeed being an 'internet-jerk'. Usually when I see it it's used either in a humbling reminder that the future isn't known sense, or a suggestion not to underestimate the value in simplifying, de-nerd-ifying existing things that work. I referred to it myself yesterday (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28359928 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28359928) in the latter sense, and I hope nobody would read that as me being a jerk or attacking BrandonM or anything. I just see it as an 'historical' example of something we can learn from; in the same way as you could learn from some great statesman or general's mistake or whatever, without it tainting your image of the person or being an attack on them. I suppose most of the jerkier ones get flagged away, meaning I mostly don't see them and dang mostly does.

capableweb 5y ago

I don't think blackbear_ is a average user of emacs, remember we're on the same hacker news where a user famously asked "why even build Dropbox when ssh/scp does the trick?" so it's very biased towards "I can hack this together myself so why couldn't others".

TacoSteemers 5y ago
If I recall correctly, that user was giving examples of questions that could be expected to be asked by other people. They were not actually tivializing Dropbox.
- capableweb 5y ago
  You don't recall correctly, the users only question is about making money while the rest are statements on how Dropbox don't seem to solve any of the "real" problems and won't even replace FTP (I recalled ssh/sft incorrectly here too). You can check out history in the making yourself here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863
  - TacoSteemers 5y ago
    Perhaps you are interested in these two comments by dang: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=dang%20brandonm%20dropbox&sort=byPopularity&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... I think this is what I was remembering.
    - OJFord 5y ago
      Interesting. I think those need to be taken in their own context though - at least the second is responding to somebody who is indeed being an 'internet-jerk'. Usually when I see it it's used either in a humbling reminder that the future isn't known sense, or a suggestion not to underestimate the value in simplifying, de-nerd-ifying existing things that work. I referred to it myself yesterday (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28359928 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28359928) in the latter sense, and I hope nobody would read that as me being a jerk or attacking BrandonM or anything. I just see it as an 'historical' example of something we can learn from; in the same way as you could learn from some great statesman or general's mistake or whatever, without it tainting your image of the person or being an attack on them. I suppose most of the jerkier ones get flagged away, meaning I mostly don't see them and dang mostly does.