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Sad but probably efficient. I'm in bc where we've been devastated by forest fires, with cities burning and thousands evacuated. And yet, every other time I get

Sad but probably efficient. I'm in bc where we've been devastated by forest fires, with cities burning and thousands evacuated. And yet, every other time I get out into the forest I see idiots smoking their freaking joints. The soil is half buried in super dry pine needles, but people still want their kick.

bamboozled 5y ago
Do you think that smokin' a joint is really enough to set off something like this? Because it's clearly a combination of things that are required to create a fire of this magnitude. Sure a joint could "start a fire" but a lot of other things could too. Maybe we just don't like to admit it but climate change is here and it's here for real.
- jdavis703 5y ago
  Wildfires can start from something as benign as a poorly managed manure pile.
- orthecreedence 5y ago
  > Do you think that smokin' a joint is really enough to set off something like this? Yes, absolutely yes. One tiny ember can smolder for days until it meets the exact right piece of fuel and sets off a full-blown fire. > Maybe we just don't like to admit it but climate change is here and it's here for real. Right, and as a result we either need to be a) more vigilant about not being idiots or b) keep doing everything as if nothing has changed and be fine wth the damage caused. Climate change is the underlying foundational issue here, but that isn't an excuse to not change our behavior.
- carom 5y ago
  Driving back from camping last weekend I saw some dry median grass on fire, presumably from a flicked cigarette. So yes, a joint could start a fire.
- charles_f 5y ago
  > Do you think that smokin' a joint is really enough to set off something like this? Yes[^1]. > Sure a joint could "start a fire" but a lot of other things could too. This is whataboutism[^2]. The fact that other things can start a fire doesn't make starting it with a joint or cigarette less of a possibility > a combination of things that are required to create a fire Like hot weather and dry vegetation? > Maybe we just don't like to admit it but climate change is here And so we should stop smoking joints in the forest when it's hot and dry to prevent starting fires? [^1]: https://www.fire.nsw.gov.au/page.php?id=327 https://www.fire.nsw.gov.au/page.php?id=327 [^2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
- bamboozled 5y ago
  Remember the bit where I said: "Sure a join could start a fire" I know that an embers can mature into big fires, that's obvious. The issue is, there is a severe drought in California, attributed to climate change, which made the Forrest go up like a house of matches. It's not _just_ because of joint smoking hippies.

bamboozled 5y ago

Do you think that smokin' a joint is really enough to set off something like this? Because it's clearly a combination of things that are required to create a fire of this magnitude. Sure a joint could "start a fire" but a lot of other things could too. Maybe we just don't like to admit it but climate change is here and it's here for real.

jdavis703 5y ago
Wildfires can start from something as benign as a poorly managed manure pile.
orthecreedence 5y ago
> Do you think that smokin' a joint is really enough to set off something like this? Yes, absolutely yes. One tiny ember can smolder for days until it meets the exact right piece of fuel and sets off a full-blown fire. > Maybe we just don't like to admit it but climate change is here and it's here for real. Right, and as a result we either need to be a) more vigilant about not being idiots or b) keep doing everything as if nothing has changed and be fine wth the damage caused. Climate change is the underlying foundational issue here, but that isn't an excuse to not change our behavior.
carom 5y ago
Driving back from camping last weekend I saw some dry median grass on fire, presumably from a flicked cigarette. So yes, a joint could start a fire.
charles_f 5y ago
> Do you think that smokin' a joint is really enough to set off something like this? Yes[^1]. > Sure a joint could "start a fire" but a lot of other things could too. This is whataboutism[^2]. The fact that other things can start a fire doesn't make starting it with a joint or cigarette less of a possibility > a combination of things that are required to create a fire Like hot weather and dry vegetation? > Maybe we just don't like to admit it but climate change is here And so we should stop smoking joints in the forest when it's hot and dry to prevent starting fires? [^1]: https://www.fire.nsw.gov.au/page.php?id=327 https://www.fire.nsw.gov.au/page.php?id=327 [^2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
bamboozled 5y ago
Remember the bit where I said: "Sure a join could start a fire" I know that an embers can mature into big fires, that's obvious. The issue is, there is a severe drought in California, attributed to climate change, which made the Forrest go up like a house of matches. It's not _just_ because of joint smoking hippies.