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It's all but certain that they will surpass the United States in at most 20 years, by quite a margin. They have the industrial base, the population (growth of w

by m0zg 5y ago

It's all but certain that they will surpass the United States in at most 20 years, by quite a margin. They have the industrial base, the population (growth of which they could stimulate, alleviating the "aging population" problem within 18-20 years), and most importantly they are not in the cultural decline as the US quite obviously is. They are on the upswing on all fronts. They also own much of Africa and Afghanistan's natural resources, and as of March of this year, they're done playing diplomatic games with the US, too: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/03/19/chinese_officials_shut_down_secretary_of_state_blinken_usa_not_qualified_to_speak_to_china_from_a_position_of_strength.html https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/03/19/chinese_o...

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esotericimpl 5y ago
They own other countries natural resources? News to me, you mean they’ve partnered with other countries for development.
vineyardmike 5y ago
>in the cultural decline as the US quite obviously is. [citation needed]
- lern_too_spel 5y ago
  The complete inability of the United States to deal with the pandemic suggests that the US is unable to mobilize itself to solve large problems effectively.
  - m0zg 5y ago
    We're doing about as well as any comparably sized country and have developed two of the world's leading vaccines (China's vaccine, apparently, doesn't work). I'm not sure what else you can do to "deal" with an endemic disease that's never going away. It's the inability to deal with severe, entrenched corruption that'll do us in, not the pandemic.
    - lern_too_spel 5y ago
      I didn't say that the pandemic will do the US in. I said that the pandemic demonstrates the US's inability to take effective action. China's ability to deal with problems that require collective action gives it a large advantage over the US.
  - vineyardmike 5y ago
    The US response is not regionally uniform especially compared to some nations eg. Israel but we're doing ok from a global perspective. Generally, i think the regional differences are a feature, not bug, of the US but obviously this isn't really advantageous in the pandemic. We developed several vaccines and slowly but steadily vaccinated huge amounts of people (we have a bigger population and lower density than to most nations we're compared to here). We had a few missteps like the mask mandate press and mask efficacy warnings, but otherwise got key medical info and protective equipment out across a large nation rapidly. We rapidly transitioned to remote work, host most of the requisite infrastructure and are home to most companies that made that possible. We mobilized early to provide health care, from testing to pop-up hospitals across cities. Sure its sad to think of hospitals being overrun and using hotels, but many nations were left with even less. Our only big mis-step was the political nature of the virus that we bred.
AnimalMuppet 5y ago
Your link demonstrates that one of their officials said that they think the US can't deal with them from a position of strength. Sure, they say that. The reality? Well, we'll see. Officials say a lot of things; actual reality does not always correspond to statements.
- m0zg 5y ago
  They never said that before, this was a _highly_ unusual, stunning rebuke. You don't say stuff like that if you lack the confidence.

by m0zg 5y ago

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esotericimpl 5y ago

They own other countries natural resources? News to me, you mean they’ve partnered with other countries for development.

vineyardmike 5y ago

>in the cultural decline as the US quite obviously is. [citation needed]

lern_too_spel 5y ago
The complete inability of the United States to deal with the pandemic suggests that the US is unable to mobilize itself to solve large problems effectively.
- m0zg 5y ago
  We're doing about as well as any comparably sized country and have developed two of the world's leading vaccines (China's vaccine, apparently, doesn't work). I'm not sure what else you can do to "deal" with an endemic disease that's never going away. It's the inability to deal with severe, entrenched corruption that'll do us in, not the pandemic.
  - lern_too_spel 5y ago
    I didn't say that the pandemic will do the US in. I said that the pandemic demonstrates the US's inability to take effective action. China's ability to deal with problems that require collective action gives it a large advantage over the US.
- vineyardmike 5y ago
  The US response is not regionally uniform especially compared to some nations eg. Israel but we're doing ok from a global perspective. Generally, i think the regional differences are a feature, not bug, of the US but obviously this isn't really advantageous in the pandemic. We developed several vaccines and slowly but steadily vaccinated huge amounts of people (we have a bigger population and lower density than to most nations we're compared to here). We had a few missteps like the mask mandate press and mask efficacy warnings, but otherwise got key medical info and protective equipment out across a large nation rapidly. We rapidly transitioned to remote work, host most of the requisite infrastructure and are home to most companies that made that possible. We mobilized early to provide health care, from testing to pop-up hospitals across cities. Sure its sad to think of hospitals being overrun and using hotels, but many nations were left with even less. Our only big mis-step was the political nature of the virus that we bred.

AnimalMuppet 5y ago

Your link demonstrates that one of their officials said that they think the US can't deal with them from a position of strength. Sure, they say that. The reality? Well, we'll see. Officials say a lot of things; actual reality does not always correspond to statements.

m0zg 5y ago
They never said that before, this was a _highly_ unusual, stunning rebuke. You don't say stuff like that if you lack the confidence.