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The fun dark pattern now is I can't copy images from Chrome and send them to non-Apple recipients in iMessage. But screenshots and copying images from Safari wo

The fun dark pattern now is I can't copy images from Chrome and send them to non-Apple recipients in iMessage. But screenshots and copying images from Safari works fine. Naturally there are a bunch of threads about it on the Apple forums with no helpful replies, and then auto-lock without any resolution. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252071606 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252071606 This likely wasn't intentional. But they're sure in no hurry to fix it.

heartbreak 5y ago
That doesn’t sound like an Apple problem, that sounds like a Google Chrome problem. Which is probably why Apple closes the forum threads.
- derefr 5y ago
  Eh, probably somewhere in between. I'm guessing it's a .webp being dragged, and for some reason iMessage (as a drag-and-drop drop-target) is claiming to be able to accept those, so Chrome doesn't bother to offer a JPEG representation, but instead just hands over the .webp as is. Then iMessage takes it, and realizes that it does not, in fact, know what to do with it. The more interesting thing is that iMessage does deliver the image, when it's to an iMessage recipient. Just not when it's to an SMS recipient. So I'm registering my guess for the root cause as: the drop-target content-type capabilities for the iMessage chat window aren't being dynamically varied with the recipient type.
  - floatingatoll 5y ago
    Cell carriers often drop Image sends that aren't GIF/PNG/JPG, so it makes sense that they'd drop WEBP. You could open a feedback report about the issue about not dynamically varying the drop target properties.
  - suzzer99 5y ago
    This also started with the upgrade to Big Sur. It was fine before that.
dangus 5y ago
Are you sure? I can copy/paste or drag and drop to an SMS recipient from Chrome to messages. I'm on macOS 11.5.2 and Chrome 92
- suzzer99 5y ago
  I can't. Fails every time. I'm on T-Mobile - maybe that matters.
seph-reed 5y ago
> dark pattern Just to get the concept a soft introduction, there are people saying we should switch to the term "coercive design." The reasons for it are fairly obvious, and I'm dubious about the degree to which some prioritize these things. But overall, "coercive design" is actually pretty descriptive, and I figured it's better coming from me than someone who likely consumes a lot of rage-bait and "dunking" fantasies in their free time.

heartbreak 5y ago

That doesn’t sound like an Apple problem, that sounds like a Google Chrome problem. Which is probably why Apple closes the forum threads.

derefr 5y ago
Eh, probably somewhere in between. I'm guessing it's a .webp being dragged, and for some reason iMessage (as a drag-and-drop drop-target) is claiming to be able to accept those, so Chrome doesn't bother to offer a JPEG representation, but instead just hands over the .webp as is. Then iMessage takes it, and realizes that it does not, in fact, know what to do with it. The more interesting thing is that iMessage does deliver the image, when it's to an iMessage recipient. Just not when it's to an SMS recipient. So I'm registering my guess for the root cause as: the drop-target content-type capabilities for the iMessage chat window aren't being dynamically varied with the recipient type.
- floatingatoll 5y ago
  Cell carriers often drop Image sends that aren't GIF/PNG/JPG, so it makes sense that they'd drop WEBP. You could open a feedback report about the issue about not dynamically varying the drop target properties.
- suzzer99 5y ago
  This also started with the upgrade to Big Sur. It was fine before that.

dangus 5y ago

Are you sure? I can copy/paste or drag and drop to an SMS recipient from Chrome to messages. I'm on macOS 11.5.2 and Chrome 92

suzzer99 5y ago
I can't. Fails every time. I'm on T-Mobile - maybe that matters.

seph-reed 5y ago

> dark pattern Just to get the concept a soft introduction, there are people saying we should switch to the term "coercive design." The reasons for it are fairly obvious, and I'm dubious about the degree to which some prioritize these things. But overall, "coercive design" is actually pretty descriptive, and I figured it's better coming from me than someone who likely consumes a lot of rage-bait and "dunking" fantasies in their free time.