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Get stuffed! Snowden made the ultimate sacrifice for the USA and its Constitution. I was put in a similar situation at one time: I was read-into a top secret

Get stuffed! Snowden made the ultimate sacrifice for the USA and its Constitution. I was put in a similar situation at one time: I was read-into a top secret program and the only part that required that level of clearance was: "We are intentionally breaking the law and going against expressed Congressional cancelation of the project by continuing to fund using a slush fund created from black project funding that isn't on the public record". I was faced with the same situation Snowden faced: 1) whistle blow about it, 2) cooperate with it by aiding and abetting illegal acts that could easily be considered treason, or 3) quit and have nothing to do with it. I took the last option which is almost as cowardly as going along but marginally more moral. I've never worked on any DOD program since and I will not help or work on any DOD program ever. Snowden went above and beyond in what he did and he was right in a very SELF-sacrificial way. He's a hero for that. The fucking CCP does not exist, clown! Russia is more of Christian nation now than either the US is now or than the CCP ever was! Giving sanctuary like this is far more Christian that what anyone would get for the US government in the last few decades. He'd likely be killed before he makes it to trial if he comes back so honestly I don't blame him. I'm sure he sees the irony of this because CORRECTLY it doesn't make the US seem like the bastion of freedom, due process or good. Because if you haven't noticed, the country is not remotely living up to its own founding principles or Constitution particularly recently. Yeah, "why worry; I've done nothing wrong". That's NOT how reality works - you can be prosecuted/persecuted even doing "nothing wrong." From my experience it's only a matter of time and sheep like you will be the first to be sacrificed.

randomopining 5y ago
Lol at your clearly biased and sophomoric response. 1. He became an internationally known figure over night. No doubt he gets paid for interviews, appearances, books, op-eds etc. Probably lives a great life in Moscow. Plus he has a "word" on things, people value it. He got all that by doing his act. 2. CCP does not exist? Just going to plainly say: lol. Russia is an oligarchal-controlled country. They use nationalism and "Orthodox Christianity" as a cover for their deeds. Exactly how Christian were the operations in Chechnya? Truly lol at your response. 3. Give me one example of these metadata collection programs beings used to illegally prosecute and imprison an American citizen in America? Seriously, find one. You can't say "its gonna happen!" as proof that it is happening. Overall 0/10 counter on your part.
- rhabarba 5y ago
  > They use nationalism and "Orthodox Christianity" as a cover for their deeds. Sounds like the Bush administration to me.
  - eurasiantiger 5y ago
    Everyone is using religion as a cover. Even the US-led Taliban.
- ncmncm 5y ago
  How many people prosecuted under the Espionage Act in the last decade were spies? One, maybe? How many were journalists, or people assisting journalists? All the rest? These people imprisoned were the only ones obeying the law, by reporting violation of laws, as required by law. Meanwhile, all the eager participants in torture programs are walking around loose, still collecting paychecks. How can we get them prosecuted?
- bellyfullofbac 5y ago
  Well, why do us idiots bother trying to counteract you, you surely already know everything better! /s Snowden living a great life in Moscow? He's trapped in that country, maybe even that city, he can't go home to the US or travel anywhere because of the risk of getting arrested by America-friendly governments (or who knows if the CIA has worse plans). If what he wanted was the money, he was a well-paid consultant living in Hawaii, in your world of what you think his motivation is, he would've been better off shutting up and being a cog in the giant surveillance machine.
2OEH8eoCRo0 5y ago
>I was put in a similar situation at one time: I was read-into a top secret program No you weren't.
Craighead 5y ago
lol didnt read
eurasiantiger 5y ago
> The fucking CCP does not exist, clown! LOL, right. What is it, then? Just another arm of the transnational capitalists?
Miiko 5y ago
> The fucking CCP does not exist, clown! CCP = Chinese Communist Party. What does not exist was called CCCP ;)
satronaut 5y ago
Whenever somebody says "I don't care because I have nothing to hide", I ask how they'd feel if I secretly filmed them while they brushed their teeth in the morning. I usually get a long pause after saying that. Snowden is a hero. It's terrifying how we all just shrugged our shoulders and demanded 0 accountability from the government. That was back in (2013?) and I'm sure that the survelance tools are leagues beyond what they had back then, and google/facebook/twitter are even more complicit than before. Hell, people are begging for vaccine passports now, which would exclude people by default from society.

randomopining 5y ago

Lol at your clearly biased and sophomoric response. 1. He became an internationally known figure over night. No doubt he gets paid for interviews, appearances, books, op-eds etc. Probably lives a great life in Moscow. Plus he has a "word" on things, people value it. He got all that by doing his act. 2. CCP does not exist? Just going to plainly say: lol. Russia is an oligarchal-controlled country. They use nationalism and "Orthodox Christianity" as a cover for their deeds. Exactly how Christian were the operations in Chechnya? Truly lol at your response. 3. Give me one example of these metadata collection programs beings used to illegally prosecute and imprison an American citizen in America? Seriously, find one. You can't say "its gonna happen!" as proof that it is happening. Overall 0/10 counter on your part.

rhabarba 5y ago
> They use nationalism and "Orthodox Christianity" as a cover for their deeds. Sounds like the Bush administration to me.
- eurasiantiger 5y ago
  Everyone is using religion as a cover. Even the US-led Taliban.
ncmncm 5y ago
How many people prosecuted under the Espionage Act in the last decade were spies? One, maybe? How many were journalists, or people assisting journalists? All the rest? These people imprisoned were the only ones obeying the law, by reporting violation of laws, as required by law. Meanwhile, all the eager participants in torture programs are walking around loose, still collecting paychecks. How can we get them prosecuted?
bellyfullofbac 5y ago
Well, why do us idiots bother trying to counteract you, you surely already know everything better! /s Snowden living a great life in Moscow? He's trapped in that country, maybe even that city, he can't go home to the US or travel anywhere because of the risk of getting arrested by America-friendly governments (or who knows if the CIA has worse plans). If what he wanted was the money, he was a well-paid consultant living in Hawaii, in your world of what you think his motivation is, he would've been better off shutting up and being a cog in the giant surveillance machine.

2OEH8eoCRo0 5y ago

>I was put in a similar situation at one time: I was read-into a top secret program No you weren't.

Craighead 5y ago

lol didnt read

eurasiantiger 5y ago

> The fucking CCP does not exist, clown! LOL, right. What is it, then? Just another arm of the transnational capitalists?

Miiko 5y ago

> The fucking CCP does not exist, clown! CCP = Chinese Communist Party. What does not exist was called CCCP ;)

satronaut 5y ago

Whenever somebody says "I don't care because I have nothing to hide", I ask how they'd feel if I secretly filmed them while they brushed their teeth in the morning. I usually get a long pause after saying that. Snowden is a hero. It's terrifying how we all just shrugged our shoulders and demanded 0 accountability from the government. That was back in (2013?) and I'm sure that the survelance tools are leagues beyond what they had back then, and google/facebook/twitter are even more complicit than before. Hell, people are begging for vaccine passports now, which would exclude people by default from society.