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I have domains on a European ccTLD. This is what they "resolve to": holder.............: Private person registrar..........: Private person The registrar's

I have domains on a European ccTLD. This is what they "resolve to": holder.............: Private person registrar..........: Private person The registrar's name (that's me) used to be visible but that changed with stronger privacy requirements, soon after GDPR. European trademark & hate speech laws (plus dns blocking of various domains associated with pornography or piracy) probably still apply so .is could be a free-er choice.

lucb1e 5y ago
It's still registered though. Check any .nl domain on https://sidn.nl/en https://sidn.nl/en (you could try to put 'rop' in the 'check domain name' box), you just need to set a checkmark and agree to the Google terms of service to resolve their captcha and off you go.
- foxfluff 5y ago
  Of course a domain is registered if it's registered. It's just that different countries offer different degrees of privacy for the holder.
  - lucb1e 5y ago
    Sure but I mean it's centrally registered in the central WHOIS database. Of course the registrar has whatever data you put in their order form, that's obvious enough; what I mean is that they still forward your personal info to a central registry and the only thing GDPR changed about the WHOIS database is output filtering, or in SIDN's case not even that. I find it totally weird and invasive that this must be centrally registered in the first place (I grew up with my parents telling me not to use my real name anywhere online, let alone put it in a public database; maybe the problem is that I wanted a domain as a teenager and now it weirds me out?). Using privacy options means my paid-for domain is now not legally mine and I can't make use of any dispute procedure because the registry organisation has nothing in place for when my real name is not tracked in their database.
    - CydeWeys 5y ago
      How can you expect it to be legally yours if your name isn't even recorded as being the owner anywhere? It seems like you have two fundamentally exclusive desires here: Complete anonymity, but also bulletproof ownership. I guess there's some blockchain solutions that meet your requirements, but no one uses them. Nope also that e.g. land ownership is recorded and publicly accessible.
      - lucb1e 5y ago
        > I guess there's some blockchain solutions Hah, but nah, way simpler: submit a hash. No chain that needs to be kept alive, just a simple old commitment scheme[1]. Or even just a name that you pick for yourself: similar to how authors can have the benefits of copyright without revealing their real name, why ought one not be able to operate lucb1e.com under the worldwide unique nickname lucb1e? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commitment_scheme https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commitment_scheme
throw0101a 5y ago
For .ca in Canada, which is administered by CIRA which is a non-profit corporation, the following is the policy: -- When doing a WHOIS lookup, you can find details such as: Status (i.e. if a domain is currently available or registered) The creation, expiry, and updated dates Registrar information Registrant information* Administrative, Technical and Billing Contacts* *The registrant name and administrative and technical contact information of non-individual registrants, such as corporations, is displayed by default. The registrant name and administrative and technical contact information of individuals, such as Canadian citizens or permanent residents is not displayed in WHOIS per the CIRA Privacy Policy. Generally non-individuals are public and individuals are private. -- * https://www.cira.ca/ca-domains/whois https://www.cira.ca/ca-domains/whois

lucb1e 5y ago

It's still registered though. Check any .nl domain on https://sidn.nl/en https://sidn.nl/en (you could try to put 'rop' in the 'check domain name' box), you just need to set a checkmark and agree to the Google terms of service to resolve their captcha and off you go.

foxfluff 5y ago
Of course a domain is registered if it's registered. It's just that different countries offer different degrees of privacy for the holder.
- lucb1e 5y ago
  Sure but I mean it's centrally registered in the central WHOIS database. Of course the registrar has whatever data you put in their order form, that's obvious enough; what I mean is that they still forward your personal info to a central registry and the only thing GDPR changed about the WHOIS database is output filtering, or in SIDN's case not even that. I find it totally weird and invasive that this must be centrally registered in the first place (I grew up with my parents telling me not to use my real name anywhere online, let alone put it in a public database; maybe the problem is that I wanted a domain as a teenager and now it weirds me out?). Using privacy options means my paid-for domain is now not legally mine and I can't make use of any dispute procedure because the registry organisation has nothing in place for when my real name is not tracked in their database.
  - CydeWeys 5y ago
    How can you expect it to be legally yours if your name isn't even recorded as being the owner anywhere? It seems like you have two fundamentally exclusive desires here: Complete anonymity, but also bulletproof ownership. I guess there's some blockchain solutions that meet your requirements, but no one uses them. Nope also that e.g. land ownership is recorded and publicly accessible.
    - lucb1e 5y ago
      > I guess there's some blockchain solutions Hah, but nah, way simpler: submit a hash. No chain that needs to be kept alive, just a simple old commitment scheme[1]. Or even just a name that you pick for yourself: similar to how authors can have the benefits of copyright without revealing their real name, why ought one not be able to operate lucb1e.com under the worldwide unique nickname lucb1e? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commitment_scheme https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commitment_scheme

throw0101a 5y ago

For .ca in Canada, which is administered by CIRA which is a non-profit corporation, the following is the policy: -- When doing a WHOIS lookup, you can find details such as: Status (i.e. if a domain is currently available or registered) The creation, expiry, and updated dates Registrar information Registrant information* Administrative, Technical and Billing Contacts* *The registrant name and administrative and technical contact information of non-individual registrants, such as corporations, is displayed by default. The registrant name and administrative and technical contact information of individuals, such as Canadian citizens or permanent residents is not displayed in WHOIS per the CIRA Privacy Policy. Generally non-individuals are public and individuals are private. -- * https://www.cira.ca/ca-domains/whois https://www.cira.ca/ca-domains/whois