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This does not seem like a reliable source about Microsoft's actions in the 90s. What are they gonna do? Blog about how they're guilty of anticompetitive behavio

by dmead 5y ago

This does not seem like a reliable source about Microsoft's actions in the 90s. What are they gonna do? Blog about how they're guilty of anticompetitive behavior?

wizzwizz4 5y ago
I don't remember Raymond Chen ever lying. If there weren't legitimate reasons, Raymond would just not talk about them. Especially since this would be a very elaborate, multi-faceted lie that anybody with an intermediate knowledge of the inner workings of Windows 9x would've been able to call out.
- dmead 5y ago
  I guess I'm expecting lies of omission here. My guess is that content on Microsoft's blogs, especially about this period is cleared with legal before anything goes up.
- AshamedCaptain 5y ago
  Raymond Chen may not intentionally lie, but he can be wrong and has been wrong in the past. One obvious example that I remember is when he said that the reason Pinball.exe disappeared from Windows Vista was because they couldn't port it to 64 bits. And yet as I read every single clickbait newssite parrot what he was saying, I was literally playing 64-bit Pinball.exe on a standard Windows XP x64 edition ... The comments in his blog disappear every time Microsoft shuffles it around, so these discussions are lost forever.
  - mananaysiempre 5y ago
    Not lost, for now: <http://bytepointer.com/resources/old_new_thing/index.htm http://bytepointer.com/resources/old_new_thing/index.htm>. (Thankfully, MSDN blog comments didn’t require JavaScript, or they would now be lost...) Here’s the Pinball piece, for example: <http://bytepointer.com/resources/old_new_thing/20121218_294_why_was_pinball_removed_from_windows_vista.htm http://bytepointer.com/resources/old_new_thing/20121218_294_...>.
  - aoetalks 5y ago
    It was probably the 32 bit version of pinball, running on 64 bit windows via WoW64
    - AshamedCaptain 5y ago
      No. Easily distinguishable by the * (or lack of it) in task manager.
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by dmead 5y ago

This does not seem like a reliable source about Microsoft's actions in the 90s. What are they gonna do? Blog about how they're guilty of anticompetitive behavior?

wizzwizz4 5y ago

I don't remember Raymond Chen ever lying. If there weren't legitimate reasons, Raymond would just not talk about them. Especially since this would be a very elaborate, multi-faceted lie that anybody with an intermediate knowledge of the inner workings of Windows 9x would've been able to call out.

dmead 5y ago
I guess I'm expecting lies of omission here. My guess is that content on Microsoft's blogs, especially about this period is cleared with legal before anything goes up.
AshamedCaptain 5y ago
Raymond Chen may not intentionally lie, but he can be wrong and has been wrong in the past. One obvious example that I remember is when he said that the reason Pinball.exe disappeared from Windows Vista was because they couldn't port it to 64 bits. And yet as I read every single clickbait newssite parrot what he was saying, I was literally playing 64-bit Pinball.exe on a standard Windows XP x64 edition ... The comments in his blog disappear every time Microsoft shuffles it around, so these discussions are lost forever.
- mananaysiempre 5y ago
  Not lost, for now: <http://bytepointer.com/resources/old_new_thing/index.htm http://bytepointer.com/resources/old_new_thing/index.htm>. (Thankfully, MSDN blog comments didn’t require JavaScript, or they would now be lost...) Here’s the Pinball piece, for example: <http://bytepointer.com/resources/old_new_thing/20121218_294_why_was_pinball_removed_from_windows_vista.htm http://bytepointer.com/resources/old_new_thing/20121218_294_...>.
- aoetalks 5y ago
  It was probably the 32 bit version of pinball, running on 64 bit windows via WoW64
  - AshamedCaptain 5y ago
    No. Easily distinguishable by the * (or lack of it) in task manager.
    - deleted 5y ago
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