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I must be out of touch, those aren’t fashionable and I don’t think most people in their 20s would think they are (sure they wear them all the time but that’s be

by swiley 5y ago

I must be out of touch, those aren’t fashionable and I don’t think most people in their 20s would think they are (sure they wear them all the time but that’s because of a rejection of fashion in favor of comfort.)

jbtbfkkfmfne 5y ago
> wear them all the time That's kind of what fashionable means. Oxford dict: Fashionable - characteristic of, influenced by, or representing a current popular style
- zokier 5y ago
  fashionable, popular, trendy, and common all mean different things even if they are somewhat interlinked concepts. High fashion then stands even more apart from the rest. I kinda like this Cambridges definition[1] of fashionable more (even if isn't perfect) > wearing clothes, doing things, and going to places that are considered stylish There is clear difference of what is considered stylish and what is popular. Macmillian[2] has even more poignant definition available: > popular with rich and successful people, and often expensive Which I might disagree on specifics, but it still carries the thought over. Fashionable is not (necessarily, or even commonly) popular with the common people, but of some sort of elite. [1] https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/fashionable#cacd-1 https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/fashiona... [2] https://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/fashionable#fashionable__5 https://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/fashi...
  - vidarh 5y ago
    The important aspect of what.you describe is that fashion is more aspirational than popular. A lot of what is "popular" is still recognized by the wearer themselves as not fashionable, and is worn despite that (and sometimes because of that) for various reasons.
Spivak 5y ago
Rejection of fashion in very specific trendy ways is fashionable right now. It’s more a rejection of “runway inspired” trends than a rejection of fashion itself.
- meowzero 5y ago
  In this current internet age, there's a lot of trends of fashion. There was even a trend called normcore (https://www.highsnobiety.com/p/what-is-normcore/ https://www.highsnobiety.com/p/what-is-normcore/) that rejected typical fashion trends at that time.
- DoreenMichele 5y ago
  Haute couture is almost all nutty stuff that no normal person wears anyway. It's like art for art's sake, not clothes.
  - baliex 5y ago
    Is it not art to demonstrate the capability of the designer? And what’s expected to follow is that they can put a great looking “regular” item together too
kergonath 5y ago
“These things are not fashionable, they just wear them all the time”. There is a kind of contradiction there.

by swiley 5y ago

jbtbfkkfmfne 5y ago

> wear them all the time That's kind of what fashionable means. Oxford dict: Fashionable - characteristic of, influenced by, or representing a current popular style

zokier 5y ago
fashionable, popular, trendy, and common all mean different things even if they are somewhat interlinked concepts. High fashion then stands even more apart from the rest. I kinda like this Cambridges definition[1] of fashionable more (even if isn't perfect) > wearing clothes, doing things, and going to places that are considered stylish There is clear difference of what is considered stylish and what is popular. Macmillian[2] has even more poignant definition available: > popular with rich and successful people, and often expensive Which I might disagree on specifics, but it still carries the thought over. Fashionable is not (necessarily, or even commonly) popular with the common people, but of some sort of elite. [1] https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/fashionable#cacd-1 https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/fashiona... [2] https://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/fashionable#fashionable__5 https://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/fashi...
- vidarh 5y ago
  The important aspect of what.you describe is that fashion is more aspirational than popular. A lot of what is "popular" is still recognized by the wearer themselves as not fashionable, and is worn despite that (and sometimes because of that) for various reasons.

Spivak 5y ago

Rejection of fashion in very specific trendy ways is fashionable right now. It’s more a rejection of “runway inspired” trends than a rejection of fashion itself.

meowzero 5y ago
In this current internet age, there's a lot of trends of fashion. There was even a trend called normcore (https://www.highsnobiety.com/p/what-is-normcore/ https://www.highsnobiety.com/p/what-is-normcore/) that rejected typical fashion trends at that time.
DoreenMichele 5y ago
Haute couture is almost all nutty stuff that no normal person wears anyway. It's like art for art's sake, not clothes.
- baliex 5y ago
  Is it not art to demonstrate the capability of the designer? And what’s expected to follow is that they can put a great looking “regular” item together too

kergonath 5y ago

“These things are not fashionable, they just wear them all the time”. There is a kind of contradiction there.