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I'm not sure a country that commits cultural genocide and sent a million or more Muslim Uighurs into reeducation camps is where you should be looking for a "bet

I'm not sure a country that commits cultural genocide and sent a million or more Muslim Uighurs into reeducation camps is where you should be looking for a "better system". Forced sterilization, forced labor... Or a country that has no freedom of the press, savagely beats or murders political dissidents, will take away your job and livelihood if you dare question CCP orthodoxy... The fact that you think is somehow morally equivalent to an NDA is just absolutely astonishing.

mcdonje 5y ago
What's astonishing is how thoroughly you missed their point.
- skystarman 5y ago
  OP was quite clear there NDAs and authoritarian, genocidal, CCP are morally equivalent. Not sure how you missed that. Tankie is also really EXCITED about Muslim fundamentalist Afghanistan!
woofie11 5y ago
Well, the US did kinda oops away a million Muslims in response to 9/11, and over a half-million Americans in lack of response to COVID19. And we do have that whole gitmo thing. Plus, we had the whole slavery bit we keep forgetting about. I could list this stuff for a while, but that's besides the point. It's not the current state that matters, but possible future outcome. We're both hill-climbing trying to improve systems from an imperfect present. The US is higher up its hill than China right now, but it's not clear that China won't pass the US in a few decades. Or the US will race ahead. Or how other systems will fare. It's also not clear how those will change as the world itself evolves. I like having a diversity of political and economic systems, even is some are better than others. I also like a diversity of cultures, even if there are ones I strongly disagree with. #simulatedannealing #geneticalgorithms
- skystarman 5y ago
  Your best argument for defending the CCP committing genocide is to Whatabout Slavery? AN institution that ended over 150 years ago?
  - woofie11 5y ago
    No, I'm not defending the CCP's actions, and my best argument for the CCP is that I'd like a diversity of economic, political, and cultural systems around the world. I don't like monocultures. They're brittle.
est 5y ago
Ahh, the Uighurs, American's most favored type of Muslim.

mcdonje 5y ago

What's astonishing is how thoroughly you missed their point.

skystarman 5y ago
OP was quite clear there NDAs and authoritarian, genocidal, CCP are morally equivalent. Not sure how you missed that. Tankie is also really EXCITED about Muslim fundamentalist Afghanistan!

woofie11 5y ago

Well, the US did kinda oops away a million Muslims in response to 9/11, and over a half-million Americans in lack of response to COVID19. And we do have that whole gitmo thing. Plus, we had the whole slavery bit we keep forgetting about. I could list this stuff for a while, but that's besides the point. It's not the current state that matters, but possible future outcome. We're both hill-climbing trying to improve systems from an imperfect present. The US is higher up its hill than China right now, but it's not clear that China won't pass the US in a few decades. Or the US will race ahead. Or how other systems will fare. It's also not clear how those will change as the world itself evolves. I like having a diversity of political and economic systems, even is some are better than others. I also like a diversity of cultures, even if there are ones I strongly disagree with. #simulatedannealing #geneticalgorithms

skystarman 5y ago
Your best argument for defending the CCP committing genocide is to Whatabout Slavery? AN institution that ended over 150 years ago?
- woofie11 5y ago
  No, I'm not defending the CCP's actions, and my best argument for the CCP is that I'd like a diversity of economic, political, and cultural systems around the world. I don't like monocultures. They're brittle.

est 5y ago

Ahh, the Uighurs, American's most favored type of Muslim.