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On the surface, from a US perspective, it seems like all publicly-funded surveillance should be accessible to...the public. I realize this is not the case, thin

On the surface, from a US perspective, it seems like all publicly-funded surveillance should be accessible to...the public. I realize this is not the case, things don't usually work out [in government] the way they "should". There is a litany of canned responses to those types of requests, usually that involve the phrase "national security". Consider though, the "hackers" mentioned in this story are wanting to see the footage that they bought with their tax dollars. If caught, they will be charged, convinced, and imprisoned...for wanting to see what they paid for. Sad state of affairs, but what can anyone do about it?

jimbob45 5y ago
There's some speculation and evidence[0] that a great deal of state surveillance is actually dedicated to state-sponsored industrial espionage. On some level, any government is going to have to match rival governments' corporate spying or risk falling behind. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_espionage#United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_espionage#United_St...
- miketery 5y ago
  Can you explain further? Are you saying domestic surveillance is leveraged by external state actors? Or that domestic surveillance is used to stop external state actors ?
  - staplers 5y ago
    It's obviously implied US agencies are spying on foreign corporations/companies to bring trade secrets to US corporations/companies/agencies.
    - pabs3 5y ago
      It was revealed by Snowden that the USA's NSA does this: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/snowden-nsa-conducts-industrial-espionage-too/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/snowden-nsa-conducts-industrial... https://www.bbc.com/news/25907502 https://www.bbc.com/news/25907502
      - esyir 5y ago
        To be honest, this seems perfectly fine to me. This is the exact sort of thing that I expect most countries to do anyway.
kccqzy 5y ago
This is not a new idea. There's been plenty of debate and cases about whether FOIA applies to surveillance footage. Generally the raw footage is subject to FOIA requests, but any inferences are probably not.
staplers 5y ago
This would remove even the thinnest barrier for other nations to benefit from this info without having "paid" for it.

jimbob45 5y ago

There's some speculation and evidence[0] that a great deal of state surveillance is actually dedicated to state-sponsored industrial espionage. On some level, any government is going to have to match rival governments' corporate spying or risk falling behind. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_espionage#United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_espionage#United_St...

miketery 5y ago
Can you explain further? Are you saying domestic surveillance is leveraged by external state actors? Or that domestic surveillance is used to stop external state actors ?
- staplers 5y ago
  It's obviously implied US agencies are spying on foreign corporations/companies to bring trade secrets to US corporations/companies/agencies.
  - pabs3 5y ago
    It was revealed by Snowden that the USA's NSA does this: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/snowden-nsa-conducts-industrial-espionage-too/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/snowden-nsa-conducts-industrial... https://www.bbc.com/news/25907502 https://www.bbc.com/news/25907502
    - esyir 5y ago
      To be honest, this seems perfectly fine to me. This is the exact sort of thing that I expect most countries to do anyway.

kccqzy 5y ago

This is not a new idea. There's been plenty of debate and cases about whether FOIA applies to surveillance footage. Generally the raw footage is subject to FOIA requests, but any inferences are probably not.

staplers 5y ago

This would remove even the thinnest barrier for other nations to benefit from this info without having "paid" for it.