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These days there are special collision avoidance systems on big commercial planes: TCAS II provides the pilot with specific instructions on how to avoid the co

These days there are special collision avoidance systems on big commercial planes: TCAS II provides the pilot with specific instructions on how to avoid the conflict with traffic. These instructions are known as a “Resolution Advisory” (RA) and may instruct the pilot to descend, climb, or adjust vertical speed. TCAS II systems are also able to communicate with each other to ensure that the RA provided to each aircraft maximizes separation. From https://nbaa.org/aircraft-operations/communications-navigation-surveillance-cns/tcas/ https://nbaa.org/aircraft-operations/communications-navigati... My understanding is these automated instructions override those from ATC

etimberg 5y ago
I believe TCAS is built off of ADS-B which is terribly insecure https://youtu.be/CXv1j3GbgLk https://youtu.be/CXv1j3GbgLk
- jrockway 5y ago
  TCAS isn't built off of ADS-B (it existed long before ADS-B was ever conceived), but it's the same basic idea (mode c / mode s transponders) and probably has the same theoretical security vulnerabilities. There's a pilot at the controls so that the technology doesn't have to be perfectly secure. If you want to walk around broadcasting fake ADS-B or Mode C signals, someone will probably find you in hours, and the only effect it will have is maybe reducing the throughput of the busiest airports if the weather happens to be particularly marginal that day.
aaronmdjones 5y ago
TCAS does not work if your transponder (or theirs) is off, which is how that collision in Brazil happened. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gol_Transportes_A%C3%A9reos_Flight_1907 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gol_Transportes_A%C3%A9reos_Fl... The Legacy's pilot footrest places the end of your shoes dangerously close to the transponder standby button. https://www.bangaloreaviation.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/VT-AOK_Embraer_Legacy_600_DSC_8376_WM.jpg https://www.bangaloreaviation.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04... The footrest is below the white screen with the navigational chart on it. The radio and transponder panel is the black screen to the right of that, with the yellow and green text on it. The 0512 is your transponder code (squawk); the button to the left of that and down one row turns it off. This resulted in the Legacy losing its TCAS ability, and the 737 it collided with being unable to see the Legacy.

etimberg 5y ago

I believe TCAS is built off of ADS-B which is terribly insecure https://youtu.be/CXv1j3GbgLk https://youtu.be/CXv1j3GbgLk

jrockway 5y ago
TCAS isn't built off of ADS-B (it existed long before ADS-B was ever conceived), but it's the same basic idea (mode c / mode s transponders) and probably has the same theoretical security vulnerabilities. There's a pilot at the controls so that the technology doesn't have to be perfectly secure. If you want to walk around broadcasting fake ADS-B or Mode C signals, someone will probably find you in hours, and the only effect it will have is maybe reducing the throughput of the busiest airports if the weather happens to be particularly marginal that day.

aaronmdjones 5y ago

TCAS does not work if your transponder (or theirs) is off, which is how that collision in Brazil happened. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gol_Transportes_A%C3%A9reos_Flight_1907 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gol_Transportes_A%C3%A9reos_Fl... The Legacy's pilot footrest places the end of your shoes dangerously close to the transponder standby button. https://www.bangaloreaviation.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/VT-AOK_Embraer_Legacy_600_DSC_8376_WM.jpg https://www.bangaloreaviation.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04... The footrest is below the white screen with the navigational chart on it. The radio and transponder panel is the black screen to the right of that, with the yellow and green text on it. The 0512 is your transponder code (squawk); the button to the left of that and down one row turns it off. This resulted in the Legacy losing its TCAS ability, and the 737 it collided with being unable to see the Legacy.